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Dylan Mulvany and Maybelline

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WhisperingAutistic · 24/04/2023 07:01

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My boycott list is huge.
There are going to be no brands left at this rate.

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ArabeIIaScott · 24/04/2023 19:00

So the difference between Jenner and Mulvaney is gravitas. Okay.

DOBARDAN · 24/04/2023 18:40

The only product I would buy which had DM's face plastered all over it would be toilet paper.

Datun · 24/04/2023 18:38

"I try to be, for the LGBT community, the adult in the room. She is not. She is bouncing around all over the place. I have nothing in common with her" she elaborated to the Post

Ah. That explains why Jenner pontificates on in the most tedious way imaginable. They imagine they're the adult.

And course the biggest thing about Jenner and the biggest thing about Mulvaney is what they both have in common!

Their misogynistic use of trans ideology to claim that woman is a costume.

Honestly, the delusion is blinding if Jenner thinks they have nothing in common with Mulvaney 🙄

Delphinium20 · 24/04/2023 18:08

We don't know that young women see Dylan as a 'role model'. There is some evidence to suggest Dylan is a role model for anorexics, unfortunately. Theys name has been attached to various 'thinspo' posts.*

None of my DDs (13,18) nor their friends can stand Dylan. They think he's mocking them. They watch him and talk about how cringe he is.

Alwayswonderedwhy · 24/04/2023 17:47

I don't like him but have no issues with men wearing or advertising make-up.

ApocalipstickNow · 24/04/2023 17:44

Mulvaney wear make up so seems a reasonable choice right now (as he’s flavour of the month) to advertise it.

There’s loads of idiots advertising stuff, idiots with lots of questionable (at best) views. This seems no different.

Make up seems a good fit. Make up is for anyone who wants it, really.

Freefall212 · 24/04/2023 16:48

The second MAC one doesn't bother me as much - just putting make up on. The Maybelline one and the Nike one where he parodies women and makes it seem like women are uncoordinated and in this make up one giddy fools - is what irritates me. I mean he is riding the wave - and getting rich so he will keep doing this.

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tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 24/04/2023 16:42

lkkjhg · 24/04/2023 12:43

Only 10% of teenage girls do sufficient exercise. Seeing him prancing round in sports bra and leggings promotes a body image (no curves or bust) that most young women won't meet.

A Sports bra should prevent excessive bounce - hardly needed when he's got no bust!

They should promote women's sports wear by showing females doing sport, not some attention seeking bloke. The fact they ditched sponsoring female athletes that got pregnant tells you everything you need to know about the misogynistic attitudes of these companies.

Perhaps it could be fashioned into a jock strap? Us girls do love a clothing item that's multi purpose

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 24/04/2023 16:36

Theeyeballsinthesky · 24/04/2023 08:52

Dylan takes the piss out of women ânsia laughing all the way to the bank on the back of it.

Wearing make up isn’t gender specific. Why not just have a bloke happy to be a bloke advertise it 🤷🏻‍♀️

This

If they really want to subscribe to the "make up is for all genders " they would have a biological man who identifies as just that

Otherwise it's just jumping on the predictable band wagon

MenopausalMe · 24/04/2023 16:35

If Maybelline and others want to advertise to the Trans/Drag market they have probably got the right face. Personally I find the dude and his parody of feminine behaviour offensive and the Tampax association 🤢 so I assume they aren’t pitching their products at me and I won’t be buying, everyone is free to make up their own mind.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 24/04/2023 16:34

People have always used beer cans for target practice , especially in America. Now they are using these one , because they don’t like it, and think that it has a un beer like brand personality. It’s not some previously unheard off practice, especially derived to threaten the alphabet people.

Wikipedia says ‘ Plinking refers to informal target shooting done for pleasure, typically at non-standard targets such as tin cans, logs, bottles, or any other homemade or naturally occurring target.[1]
Practice[edit]In contrast to shooting done at established target ranges, plinking is generally done at home, in an open field, or other private land for no fee. The term plinking is an onomatopoeia of the sharp, metallic sound (or "plink") that a projectile makes when hitting a metal target such as a tin can.’

Ping!

Datun · 24/04/2023 16:29

OMG phraseology, literal violence. Actual Nazis. Much fash.

😆

And all hotfoot on the tail of frothing, don't forget!

PearlClutch · 24/04/2023 16:13

SkyandSurf · 24/04/2023 12:59

@Datun please look at some of the phrases used on this thread alone about DM before you clutch your pearls too tightly about the phraseology used by those disagreeing with you.

Maybe also have a look at what kind of people agree with you on this issue as well. You are who you align yourself with. The protest in Melbourne attracted actual Nazis and now you have gun toting macho men blowing things up in agreement with you.

But DM wore a sports bra, felt good in it, and became one of ~literally millions ~ of people acting over the top to get hits on social media, so I guess that's the thing that will bring society down.

OMG phraseology, literal violence. Actual Nazis. Much fash.

ArabeIIaScott · 24/04/2023 16:11

RealityFan · 24/04/2023 12:54

Really, too bad feminism really is dead and buried amongst younger women.

If they genuinely believe DM is a role model for them, that's very sad.

Time for Gen Alpha to grow up, mock their older Gen X siblings, join up with older women (and men) who are royally pissed off with this malarkey.

Can woke capitalism survive on the purchasing power of the 18-35 cohort if their brains stay addled in years to come?

We don't know that young women see Dylan as a 'role model'. There is some evidence to suggest Dylan is a role model for anorexics, unfortunately. Theys name has been attached to various 'thinspo' posts.

I've found some of Dylan's posts mildly amusing. Theys a vaguely feelgood, fluffy, comedian, I guess.

Of course many women will note the undercurrents of sexism and offensive stereotypes and bristle at that. But I guess plenty of others see the superficial daft hiya type of schtick and enjoy it.

And a kind of feedback loop can be created by the use of the products themselves, so in a way we can say that as Dylan is marketing the products, the products are also marketing Dylan.

ciderhouserules · 24/04/2023 15:23

I don't care that He wears Make up -why shouldn't men wear make up or dresses or heels?

But - the way he puts it on, squealing, flailing and kicking his legs about, is a MAN putting on make up. No woman has ever kicked her heels up and squealed like a 6yo when she puts on make up. He thinks that's how woman behave all the time. Even when doing sports or exercise.

So -guys, that;'s what you are like. Putting on make up like a Man Hmm. Doing exercise like a Man. Squealing and prancing. lol.
Woman are not like that.

Ponderingwindow · 24/04/2023 15:18

I find mulvaney’s schtick as offensive as most women, but that particular maybelline video is no different than videos done by hundreds of content creators.

Makeup is not for women only. If brands want to market to men or with men, I don’t have a problem with that.

I do question their wisdom in choosing this particular content creator, who produces many offensive videos, but this video itself is not offensive.

WheelsUp · 24/04/2023 15:15

ArabeIIaScott · 24/04/2023 12:47

IIRC, stats showed an uptick in younger women buying Bud Light after Mulvaney's advert.

That was outweighed by an enormous downturn in the product's usual audience, hence the $6billion loss.

But if your target market is younger women, perhaps its still making sense to use Mulvaney to market your product.

Very worrying that young women support someone who parodies womanhood unless young women is marketing code for young transwomen.

I'm also surprised that so many of his fans are over 21 (which is the drinking age in the US iirc)

OvaHere · 24/04/2023 15:10

ejbaxa · 24/04/2023 14:40

I don't have a problem with Dylan marketing makeup. She wears make up, she's good at it, she's in the public eye = all fine by me. The Nike sports bras are different - she doesn't have the breast tissue that the majority of the female customers do and she also didn't appear to be sporty/experienced with that activity. But, this was Nike's fault, not Dylan's. All she did was accept a lucrative job offer, like most people would.

He doesn't have female breast tissue at all because he is male. So nothing like any of the female customers.

Proudofitbabe · 24/04/2023 15:09

I don't mind them using a man since cosmetics can be for all - but this individual that appropriates womanhood, and is actively taking female-specific ad opportunities from actual women (Nike etc). Why did they pick him? Is there nobody else for these gigs any more? It annoys me.

OvaHere · 24/04/2023 15:07

ArabeIIaScott · 24/04/2023 12:47

IIRC, stats showed an uptick in younger women buying Bud Light after Mulvaney's advert.

That was outweighed by an enormous downturn in the product's usual audience, hence the $6billion loss.

But if your target market is younger women, perhaps its still making sense to use Mulvaney to market your product.

Target market for what though? It's not really the revenue is it? Young girls don't have a lot of spending power. As someone said up thread it's about normalising men in their spaces and making them submissive to the ideology behind it.

MargotBamborough · 24/04/2023 15:01

SkyandSurf · 24/04/2023 12:59

@Datun please look at some of the phrases used on this thread alone about DM before you clutch your pearls too tightly about the phraseology used by those disagreeing with you.

Maybe also have a look at what kind of people agree with you on this issue as well. You are who you align yourself with. The protest in Melbourne attracted actual Nazis and now you have gun toting macho men blowing things up in agreement with you.

But DM wore a sports bra, felt good in it, and became one of ~literally millions ~ of people acting over the top to get hits on social media, so I guess that's the thing that will bring society down.

If you and your friends show up to a women's rights event with balaclavas and weapons to commit acts of violence against women with a view to silencing them, you don't get to say, "But they align with Nazis!"

You ARE the Nazis.

Oh, and the Nazis in Melbourne were there for a completely different event but don't let get in the way of your mud slinging.

Crunchingleaf · 24/04/2023 14:56

FlirtsWithRhinos · 24/04/2023 14:51

I don't have a problem with Dylan wearing makeup. I do have a problem with Dylan's sexist portrayal of womanhood.

I don't think sexism is a good look for any brand and I'm surprised Maybelline wants to be associated with it.

if I could thank your post. This is on point.

Crunchingleaf · 24/04/2023 14:56

I don’t care who advertises make-up either. BUT I do not support using anyone who thinks flouncing about like an idiot is an accurate portrayal of women. Women aren’t a joke. This particular person comes across as mocking women and women are the primary demographic for makeup.
I don’t wear Maybelline anymore anyway, However, there is probably very few big brands safe from ‘woke’ campaigns now. Increasingly I see my friends buying from smaller more local brands.

I used ‘woke’ but I wish there was a better word to describe what is happening here.

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