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Dylan Mulvany and Maybelline

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WhisperingAutistic · 24/04/2023 07:01

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My boycott list is huge.
There are going to be no brands left at this rate.

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whirlingdevonish · 09/02/2024 10:23

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen <splutter> 😂

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 16/10/2023 12:59

Why is it always Dylan , though? Seems to have a monopoly on the TW market.
Other ‘Young Girl models ‘ are available

Pudmyboy · 16/10/2023 11:13

EtiennePalmiere · 16/10/2023 10:52

For me it's because Dylan is taking away paid opportunities from women. Modelling is the only field where woman are paid on average more than men, and now the men are trying to get a piece of that, it really rankles.

Oh good point, I hadn't considered this!

Pudmyboy · 16/10/2023 11:12

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 24/04/2023 08:08

And if he was acting as the man he is, whilst wearing makeup, I would have no issue. It's that he's mocking women whilst doing it that I take offence too.

Well put!! Agree 💯%

MargotBamborough · 16/10/2023 11:03

@EtiennePalmiere I don't care much about the fact that Dylan is modelling. Dylan is entitled to do paid work for any brand which thinks that association would be good for them.

What I really dislike is the way Dylan portrays women, this idea that women are vapid, simpering idiots in crop tops, and the way that Dylan is being taken seriously by people in positions of power.

If you want to get a useful perspective on what it's like to be a girl, President Biden, why don't you talk to an actual girl? Because Dylan Mulvaney is a rich white male. Not unlike you, in fact.

EtiennePalmiere · 16/10/2023 10:52

For me it's because Dylan is taking away paid opportunities from women. Modelling is the only field where woman are paid on average more than men, and now the men are trying to get a piece of that, it really rankles.

BabyStopCryin · 14/10/2023 11:15

Look at Russel brand - he seemed to have been just a bloke who did stand up, playing up on his ‘whacky persona’ (with addictions?) and got picked up and given tv shows, live gigs… pandered to and encouraged to ‘be himself’. It’s the whole celebrity circus.

Same with this one. Bet he can’t believe his luck. Until he isn’t flavour of the month and noone will touch him with a bargepole. Or give him awards and $$$ for ‘speaking events’ (on what exactly I can’t quite tell).

user123212 · 14/10/2023 10:13

ThePoshUns · 24/04/2023 09:10

I dont believe he is trans at all. He's a fame hungry young man desperate for attention. He does nothing to further the cause of genuine trans women with his little girl cos play.

i'm not really sure he's really that smart. i don't even think he's intentionally trying to insult women, it's just that he gets off from gets a high from doing his act, and people are paying him to do it.

pinklama · 30/06/2023 18:12

IcakethereforeIam · 30/06/2023 13:42

Lest we forget, Dylan is the real victim here.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12248203/Dylan-Mulvaney-breaks-silence-Bud-Light-chokes-tears-torches-brand.html

I could actually feel sorry, I don't think Dylan did anything worse than Dylan's usual shtick (which is why I can't really sympathise). I think there was a lot of homophobia and actual honest to goodness transphobia in the backlash.

Seems the two people at Bud who were on leave have now been fired.

I don't think blond suits, but suits do. Gender ambiguity looks much better than faux femininity.

Welcome to womanhood Dylan where women are judged on their appearance, life choices, over the years being bought and sold like cattle (some still are to this day), endure FGM, denied access to education, had to fight for the right to vote, in some US states are still fighting for rights over their bodies, still fighting for equal pay just about everywhere, will most likely get sexually abuse and/or sexual comments hurled at them from men they do not know whilst walking down the street or using public transport etc.

This is all part of 'being a girl' - welcome to the club, dry your eyes and toughen up. Compare your struggle to the women in Iran, Africa, America etc and get some perspective.

p.s. as a hint some of the backlash is probably based upon your ever so slightly misogynistic and stereotyping of 'women' which is incorrect and one we have worked hard to move on from.

Hagosaurus · 30/06/2023 14:11

snoopyscarpy if a man did the stupid things Dylan does, saying he was imitating a woman because those are the sort of stupid things that women do then everybody would understand that women feel insulted. Oh, wait…..

georgarina · 30/06/2023 13:56

snoopyscarpy · 24/04/2023 08:17

Just a very genuine question, as I have seen a lot of hate towards this person.

What is it that everyone is upset about?

I think I'm too laid back to care about these things but I'm wanting to be educated here. Thank you!

Haven't RTFT so this has probably been replied to. But impersonating a member of a disadvantaged group and acting out stereotypes attached to that group is insulting and harmful. (DM's days of girlhood - crying uncontrollably, fear of insects, going into debt buying dresses, writing emotional emails and not sending them. Also his Nike ads showing him clumsily and 'cutely' prancing around in women's sportswear.) See blackface.

IcakethereforeIam · 30/06/2023 13:42

Lest we forget, Dylan is the real victim here.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12248203/Dylan-Mulvaney-breaks-silence-Bud-Light-chokes-tears-torches-brand.html

I could actually feel sorry, I don't think Dylan did anything worse than Dylan's usual shtick (which is why I can't really sympathise). I think there was a lot of homophobia and actual honest to goodness transphobia in the backlash.

Seems the two people at Bud who were on leave have now been fired.

I don't think blond suits, but suits do. Gender ambiguity looks much better than faux femininity.

Dylan Mulvaney breaks her silence on $20 billion Bud Light fiasco

The 26-year-old posted a video on Instagram addressing the debacle, which has seen Anheuser-Busch lose $20million in market cap value since the advert for March Madness.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12248203/Dylan-Mulvaney-breaks-silence-Bud-Light-chokes-tears-torches-brand.html

Datun · 19/05/2023 16:08

And again. This is exactly why Trump will get in.

Datun · 19/05/2023 16:08

God that is outrageous.

They are holding Anheuser-Busch to ransom over a loss on their own sales!!

I want to say who the fuck do they think they are. But bloody hell they must be very sure of their power.

I really hope it backfires. Nobody should be able to blackmail a company into losing sales for fuck's sake.

Chersfrozenface · 19/05/2023 15:33

Sorry, stray pronoun - 'It will be' not 'It will he'.

Phone, fat fingers.

Chersfrozenface · 19/05/2023 15:04

It will he interesting to see what difference Anheuser-Busch losing its LGBTQ+ rating does for sales.

If sales remain where they are, recover or increase, the bean counters will point out that the rating did naff all for the company commercially. And making money is what it's all about, not virtue signalling.

Fairislefandango · 18/05/2023 20:15

DM has made a mockery of being a woman. It's his whole persona. He is a man, always will be a man. It's insulting for companies to use someone who openly mocks women.

^This. If Maybelline had used a gender-non-conforming man to advertise their make-up, that would be fine! It's not about make-up being only for women. It's about the toe-curlingly girly simpering womanface that Dylan does. He gives me the massive heebie jeebies.

ManuelBensonsLeftBoot · 18/05/2023 19:59

Signalbox · 18/05/2023 19:40

Is he parodying women? He had the same mannerisms before he decided to pretend he was a woman.

I've not seen anything of DM before DM entered 'girlhood' so I have no idea how DM acted prior to deciding that DM is a 'girl' but if that is how DM behaved while claiming to be a man I'd be amazed, but even if the prancing, giggling and hair tossing was done before DM transitioned presumably it is this 'feminine' behaviour that lead DM to conclude that DM is in fact a woman. The Nike ad is just an extension of a nasty teenage boy demonstrating the concept of 'throws like girl' all exaggerated movements, stupid noises and deliberate incompetence and it is hugely insulting to women in general and female athletes in particular.

Signalbox · 18/05/2023 19:40

ManuelBensonsLeftBoot · 18/05/2023 17:32

If a straight man adopted a gay personna that was a set of exaggerated OTT stereotypes or a white person put on a dodgy fake accent and portrayed a bunch of racist tropes they would be cancelled faster than you can say offensive. But when a man parodies women he is rewarded with multiple lucrative advertising contracts and lauded as a role model.

Is he parodying women? He had the same mannerisms before he decided to pretend he was a woman.

ManuelBensonsLeftBoot · 18/05/2023 17:32

If a straight man adopted a gay personna that was a set of exaggerated OTT stereotypes or a white person put on a dodgy fake accent and portrayed a bunch of racist tropes they would be cancelled faster than you can say offensive. But when a man parodies women he is rewarded with multiple lucrative advertising contracts and lauded as a role model.

Grimchmas · 18/05/2023 09:54

DM is a glorified Audrey Hepburn cosplayer

Dylan is blurring the lines between what is a woman and what is a man.

Dylan is blurring the lines between what is an adult male and what is a female child 🤢

The cynics on the internet would say that Dylan's increasing number of sponsorships are right on track with the ultimate aims of certain movements.

I'm inclined to agree with them.

It doesn't matter that we aren't fooled.

It matters what is the acceptable party line.

Idorecruiting · 18/05/2023 09:13

SkyandSurf · 24/04/2023 09:03

MAC have a long history of supporting queer causes and promoting inclusivity with make up.

This is right on brand for them.

People of all sexes and gender can wear make up.

Honestly, some people just want to hound Dylan across the internet until she disappears. Its disgusting and bullying behaviour.

If you don't like Dylan, fine. Personally, not my cup of tea either and wouldn't have heard of her if not for people complaining.

The vitriol directed at this young person and the global scale of the relentless criticism and bullying is shameful.

Good on MAC for being one of the first global companies to genuinely stand behind the queer community- I don't think they're going to back off now and nor should they.

Tampons and Sports Bras should only be advertised by biological women. These a products where biology matters. Makeup, Beer etc fine. Do you see Nike using a Transman to model jockstraps?

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