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Judgement in Mermaids v Charity Commission tribunal expected in days

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RoyalCorgi · 18/04/2023 11:07

This is the case where Mermaids challenged the Charity Commission's decision to give charitable status to the LGBA.

Don't have any more detail at the moment, but thought you'd all be interested. It's been a four month wait already.

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Boiledbeetle · 06/07/2023 10:24

NEWS

6th July 2023

Mermaids Press

Statement on the ruling in Mermaids v Charity Commission and LGB Alliance

In June 2021, Mermaids, supported by a coalition of LGBT+ organisations, appealed the decision by the Charity Commission to register LGB Alliance (LGBA) as a charity. We argued that LGBA shouldn’t be recognised as a charity because it was focused on hostile anti-trans activism and not (as it claimed) on the promotion of lesbian, gay and bisexual rights.

The hearing took place over seven days in September and November 2022, and the Tribunal handed down its decision on Thursday 6 July 2023.

Their decision is that Mermaids doesn’t have legal standing to bring the appeal. Standing in this context is not well-defined, and we always knew this was a complex aspect of the case.

Because they found against us on standing, the Tribunal didn’t have to rule on the main issue in the appeal – namely whether or not LGBA should have been registered as a charity to begin with.

But the two judges indicated that they had given that question careful consideration and had been split on the answer. That is, one of the judges agreed with us that LGBA should not have been registered as a charity, and one disagreed.

We don’t know the details of their reasoning, but we think that is a really significant outcome. Had we been found to have standing, there is a chance that the tie would have been resolved in our favour and we would have won the case.

That puts a huge question mark over LGBA’s status. In addition, key points of our evidence about LGBA were accepted by both judges. They agreed with us that some of LGBA’s output on social media went beyond the boundaries of civilised debate, and they accepted our evidence that LGBA had progressed the “pro-LGB” activities it claims to be focused on “only to a limited extent”. They suggested that a combination of public scrutiny and oversight by the Charity Commission would “deter LGBA from crossing the line” in future.

We are glad to have been able to shine a light on the harmful nature of LGBA’s activities and the need for ongoing scrutiny, and we are pleased that one of the judges accepted our evidence that LGBA should never have been registered as a charity. But we are disappointed that the Tribunal wasn’t able to go further.

If we don’t meet the test for standing in this case, it is hard to imagine that anyone could have done. In effect, that means that the decision to register LGBA as a charity cannot be challenged by a third party, even though the judgment confirms that there are serious doubts over whether LGBA should have charitable status.

We are taking legal advice on whether to appeal the finding on standing. In the meantime, our focus remains on channelling all of our energies into the urgent, critical challenges facing trans young people today. This includes demanding access to timely healthcare and robustly challenging forthcoming trans guidance for schools which, if reports are true, could have devastating consequences not only for trans children and young people, but any young person who doesn’t conform to gender norms.

Thank you to everyone who has supported our case, and to all those who continue to stand up for trans young people in an increasingly hostile climate. We are grateful for the support and solidarity of the LGBTQ+ community and LGBTQ+ organisations across the UK and globally, who resist attempts to divide our community. Together, we can create a better world to grow up trans.

QuickWash · 06/07/2023 10:23

Mermaids seem to be saying that they would have won. If the decision had been different. And that casts doubt in LGBA. And actually the judges agreed with them. But they lost. But they would have won really, in different circs.

FFS.

DerekFaker · 06/07/2023 10:22

AnonGCMum · 06/07/2023 10:11

Thank the Lord. I hope it’s a wholehearted win, not one Mermaids can claim as a win too.

You know they will anyway!

PronounssheRa · 06/07/2023 10:22

IcakethereforeIam · 06/07/2023 10:18

Have Mermaids or the GLP tweeted anything?

It was a complicated and technical win for GLP, is the usual go to when they, well, lose.

I'm agog people still give GLP money.

EileenBilton · 06/07/2023 10:22

Splendid news

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/07/2023 10:21

So relieved!

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 06/07/2023 10:21

Ameanstreakamilewide · 06/07/2023 10:20

Maugham will be throwing his heterosexual toys out of the pram, I'm sure - like this has got anything to do with him.

Last week, he was saying that Mermaids would appeal, if they lost.
What has it got to do with him??

He has never seen a bad cause that he doesn't like spending other people's money on fighting.

senua · 06/07/2023 10:21

Ramblingnamechanger · 06/07/2023 10:19

Terrific news. Well done to all involved…but it shouldn’t have ever happened.

But all sunlight is welcome.

PretzelKnot · 06/07/2023 10:21

Thank fuck sanity has prevailed. It should never have come to this and it’s outrageous it took so long- justice delayed is justice denied.

Mermaids and the Fox-bothering arseholes can fuck off to fuckoffdom.

SapphosRock · 06/07/2023 10:21

This has made my year! Brilliant news!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/07/2023 10:21

Mermaids have put their "it's a loss but we were right" statement up now.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 06/07/2023 10:20

IcakethereforeIam · 06/07/2023 10:18

Have Mermaids or the GLP tweeted anything?

Maugham will be throwing his heterosexual toys out of the pram, I'm sure - like this has got anything to do with him.

Last week, he was saying that Mermaids would appeal, if they lost.
What has it got to do with him??

Ramblingnamechanger · 06/07/2023 10:20

Anything from mermaids yet?

lifeissweet · 06/07/2023 10:20

I am now praying that this will be useful in a wider sense and there is something in the judgment that they can point to so that anyone pulling funding (Arts Council...looking at you) on the say-so of Mermaids and their nasty flying monkeys can be told to jog on.

Legally - not a hate group. Now piss off!

Toseland · 06/07/2023 10:20

Oh wow, what a relief, congratulations LGBAlliance xxxxx

ickky · 06/07/2023 10:19

Sanity prevails. Halleluiah

The LGBA site can't cope with the traffic. I think that is a good sign that so many care.

Boiledbeetle · 06/07/2023 10:19

I wonder how many are trying to access their page

Ramblingnamechanger · 06/07/2023 10:19

Terrific news. Well done to all involved…but it shouldn’t have ever happened.

IcakethereforeIam · 06/07/2023 10:18

Have Mermaids or the GLP tweeted anything?

yourhairiswinterfire · 06/07/2023 10:18

Congratulations LGBA! So pleased for them.

Dianbeatthis · 06/07/2023 10:17

Aaarggh I can’t read Twitter after Elon’s recent shut down and can’t read the LGBA statement!! But fantastic news - I had such a knot in my stomach refreshing this thread!!

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