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New UN report says children can consent to sex with adults

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Clymene · 15/04/2023 18:42

And that there should be no criminal charges for adults who have sexual relations with children.

The International Commission of Jurists - 'Composed of 60 eminent judges and lawyers from all regions of the world, the International Commission of Jurists promotes and protects human rights through the Rule of Law, by using its unique legal expertise to develop and strengthen national and international justice systems' - has published a a Human Rights-Based Approach to Criminal Law Proscribing Conduct Associated with Sex, Reproduction, Drug Use, HIV, Homelessness and Poverty.

They've (ironically) called it the 8 March (IWD) Principles. I say ironically because as you can probably guess, a lot of the report is about men's right to have sex without fear of prosecution.

The entire report is basically decriminalise all the things.

Children can consent to sex:

sexual conduct involving persons below the domestically prescribed minimum age of consent to sex may be consensual in fact, if not in law. In this context, the enforcement of criminal law should reflect the rights and capacity of persons under 18 years of age to make decisions about engaging in consensual sexual conduct and their right to be heard in matters concerning them.

Punters and pimps should not be prosecuted:

The exchange of sexual services between consenting adults for money, goods or services and communication with another about, advertising an offer for, or sharing premises with another for the purpose of exchanging sexual services between consenting adults for money, goods or services, whether in a public or private place, may not be criminalized, absent coercion, force, abuse of authority or fraud.
Criminal law may not proscribe the conduct of third parties who, directly or indirectly, for receipt of a financial or material benefit, under fair conditions – without coercion, force, abuse of authority or fraud – facilitate, manage, organize, communicate with another, advertise, provide information about, provide or rent premises for the purpose of the exchange of sexual services between consenting adults for money, goods or services.

Feels batshit to me but I have no idea how much power and influence they have.

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AxolotlOnions · 15/04/2023 18:57

Clymene · 15/04/2023 18:56

Eh? I've provided a link to the report @AxolotlOnions.

The link is from this page: www.unaids.org/en/resources/presscentre/featurestories/2023/march/20230308_new-legal-principles-decriminalization

Yes and I'm tired so I wanted to know what page it was on.

icanneverthinkofnc · 15/04/2023 18:57

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Clymene · 15/04/2023 18:56

Eh? I've provided a link to the report @AxolotlOnions.

The link is from this page: www.unaids.org/en/resources/presscentre/featurestories/2023/march/20230308_new-legal-principles-decriminalization

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AxolotlOnions · 15/04/2023 18:56

Clymene · 15/04/2023 18:52

If it meant 'between' it would have used the word 'between'. It doesn't.

Which page is it on? Context is needed before making a decision on what they mean. for instance, should a 16 year old be prosecuted for having sex with a 15 year old? They're both children in the eyes of the law.

Roadtrips · 15/04/2023 18:55

Remember the people in 2016 during Brexit who said that we must listen to the experts.

Remember we were told to follow the science in 2020. I did btw, got my vaccine I was told that would stop me spreading covid, which it didn't.

Our library books, schools and NHS are full of factually incorrect Queer theory bollocks and now this.

SpicyMoth · 15/04/2023 18:54

"No one may be held criminally liable on the basis that their conduct is alleged to be harmful to their own pregnancy, such as alcohol or drug consumption or contracting HIV or transmitting it to the foetus while pregnant, or for their own pregnancy loss"

Uhm... surely if a woman is conducting herself in a way that is harming her baby that should be.. Idk... a problem? At least looked into by a mental health team??
Am I misunderstanding this section?

AxolotlOnions · 15/04/2023 18:54

Somebodiesmother · 15/04/2023 18:44

Isn't that first paragraph about those under the age of consent having sex with each other?

Yes, that is how it looks to me but OP hasn't told us where in the 32 page document that quote is and I've just driven several hundred miles so I'm going to let someone else do the research!

Clymene · 15/04/2023 18:52

Somebodiesmother · 15/04/2023 18:44

Isn't that first paragraph about those under the age of consent having sex with each other?

If it meant 'between' it would have used the word 'between'. It doesn't.

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Thescriptures · 15/04/2023 18:46

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Somebodiesmother · 15/04/2023 18:44

Isn't that first paragraph about those under the age of consent having sex with each other?

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