Can MNHQ set up a new discussion category called Feminism: sex & gender discussion (inclusive, non-GC)

I’m still trying to chomp to the end of this thread. But the association of GC feminism with Nazism is ludicrous. The 3 pillars of Nazi ideology is the antipathy of feminism.

Kinder
Küche
Kirche

Children, kitchen, church. That’s supposedly what women were / are good for. No woman calling herself a feminist believes she’s on this earth just to go to church, cook and produce copious offspring… and most feminists don’t believe in the big man in the sky!

Makes sense. Does come across that the OP is quite young with limited experience of real life. I could be wrong but that’s certainly the kind of guff only a young woman or certainly a very naive one could come out with. I wonder how much the refusal to acknowledge the physical strength of men vs women plays in to the belief that men can be women.

I once saw an interesting discussion about Buffy feminism which focused around the episode 'Helpless' where Buffy's strength and skills are reduced to those of an ordinary person as part of a test. She becomes very aware of how it feels to be vulnerable when her supernatural powers are taken from her.

@nellodee I think you've got the right of it there.

Bad faith is the action of a person hiding the truth from him/herself. That "the one to whom the lie is told and the one who lies are one and the same person, which means that I must know the truth, in my capacity as [the] deceiver, though [the truth] is hidden from me in my capacity as the one deceived"; thus, in the praxis of bad faith, "I must know that truth very precisely, in order to hide it from myself the more carefully — and this not at two different moments of temporality."

People hold false beliefs despite being aware that their false beliefs are contradicted by the facts of external reality; thus those beliefs are held in bad faith towards one's Self.

My understanding of the phrase “paternalistic feminism” is that some feminism paints men as offenders and women as weak and in need of protecting from the nasty mens. I think of this view as Buffy feminism, and it would be great if we were all kick ass vampire slayers like her. Unfortunately, men ARE the offenders (not all men blah blah blah) and women ARE weaker (probably even most of the ones who think they’re not) and none of us are chosen ones.
I could have misinterpreted the phrase, but that’s my take on it.

Ha ha ha ha absolutely brilliant. I also love a 20s bob. Gold star

@EmotionalSupportHyena made me chortle thanks

Non GC are welcome to debate and get involved in discussion on the feminism sections.

The clue here is 'discuss and debate'.

Setting up an echochamber where one view or another view are 'not allowed' is neither helpful nor workable.

There are plenty of other places on the internet where the focus is on non GC views too.

I got so fed up of this regressive sexists shite coming into my house from school/ TV/ internet that I (very theatrically) chopped my mid back length hair off with the kitchen scissors and demanded my three kids (then aged 9, 15 & 21) start calling me ‘dad’.

Seems to have cured them of their nonsense 😉

(Currently have a short 1920s style bob - I miss my hair but it was worth the sacrifice)

That reminds me of when I had my hair cropped. I got called skinhead by a few people. A sign of the times.

All that's needed...
TRA? FFS!

@Brefugee indeed I feel your pain, when I first had my long hair cut off my dad said I looked like a boy, whilst my friends thought that that was a very old fashioned attitude. When my daughter got her hair cut short it felt like it was her friends who thought she looked like a boy whilst I was the one who thought that that was a very old fashioned attitude.

What do you do if your kid is distressed because they don't think they fit the stereotypes well enough. Seems to me the kindest best and most honest answer is screw the stereotypes you're perfect just as you are and don't need to live up anyone's ideas of what men/women have to be like

Well yes, exactly.

The only group who need the restrictive, sexist stereotypes are the genderists, because without having these to mimic as 'proof' of their inner gender feelings, the entire ideology becomes utterly meaningless.

@howdoesatoastermaketoast

Seems to me the kindest best and most honest answer is screw the stereotypes you're perfect just as you are and don't need to live up anyone's ideas of what men/women have to be like.

That's my opinion, but you've put it more eloquently than I could have.

What do you do if your kid is distressed because they don't think they fit the stereotypes well enough. Seems to me the kindest best and most honest answer is screw the stereotypes you're perfect just as you are and don't need to live up anyone's ideas of what men/women have to be like.

welcome to 2nd wave feminism. How are we still at this? I've been at this for 40+ years. And we are still getting the Gender Stereotype Bollocks. I could scream

Reddit hates women so they will feel right at home.

Men's rights activism.

FemmyMenism?

Perhaps it’s time for a revival of The Whigs?

(no h).

Having watched the OP quickly resort to labelling others and the board with the usual slurs on other threads on this board, I suspect the motives for this thread is rather simple once you have seen it.

Meninism? 😀

I think this feminism deserves a new name…

Dickpanderism?

Ballpalmerism?

Penispersonism?

The OP wants feminism to include men but not include women.

So I believe. Set forth OP - no-one will contradict you on Reddit (at least not last time I looked).

I think there is an Astrology topic, you could try there too.