Can MNHQ set up a new discussion category called Feminism: sex & gender discussion (inclusive, non-GC)

Me too! lifelong, active feminist in her 50s here. Appalled by what I've been witnessing these last couple of years. Plus, LGBTQ spaces have always been the safest and most feminist spaces for me - not just physically safe from sexual harassment, but safe to be myself and I've always felt welcome - in the past and now. Not going to forget that that.

Yes the whole 'those horrible women are driving hundreds of thousands of women off MN' line was the one used to get HQ to create the chat thread. There it is. HQ created it. It's not being used for much, go and use it.

Although I think to ask women not to 'derail' anti-women conversations is a bit strange, and I doubt you would accept the idea that FWR should never be 'derailed' with other views or posts such as yours?

Since I hid AIBU (best decision ever by the way), sex and gender threads often show up in my little trending box. It’s a busy board

That sounds horribly familiar…

I guess it's another way of trying to force "no debate", maybe?

You can have discussions anywhere, but is what you're wanting somewhere that particular views are not allowed?

I fail to see how wanting to retain women's rights, spaces and definition is “derailing”

@ConstanceOcean you say "Most MNers will not even come into the feminist board for this reason." But how do you know that at all? You can't possibly. Sure, plenty of vocal posters will say how much they hate this section but you can't possibly say that most MNers wont even come into the feminist board at all.

Done!

OP, you have literally the EXACT WHOLE OF THE REST OF MUMSNET for the type of discussions you want.
Sorry for shouting, but FFS!

The split of the feminism board happened while I was still only lurking, but I heard about it. This one board is the ONLY place on mumsnet that we're allowed to discuss how we don't think gender stereotypes are helpful or meaningful.

tl;dr: I want an echo chamber where no one will disagree with me.

Hmmmm what does this actually mean? Not mentioning you don’t believe you can have a cock and balls and be a woman?

@Labraradabrador

But there is a board for discussions about equal pay! It's the general feminist chat one. That's exactly what it is there for and most people would engage with it very willingly

Haven't a clue what the first post means. God, I hate accronyms! But, I will read it again and try to understand it.

You won't get any disrespectful comments from me. But you'll have to argue your cause, and promise to keep arguing it.

Self-imposed isolation from the GCs is not the way forward.

Yes, WTF is that all about?
OP - Give Mush a try. You might find it a good fit.

Do you not realise that when males can take over women's sport, take prizes, scholarships and places on schemes intended to benefit women and address gender inequality, and be promoted 'as women' in a way that superficially readdresses the gender balance within their organisation, that you have taken away all of the tools that were created to enable women to participate in employment and gain economic equality?

Don't you understand that if you take away the possibility of accurately identifying who is and is not a woman, you have fatally destroyed all possibility of making employment and society more equitable?

So @PlanetLuna if you don’t believe women are oppressed because of their sex, as you state males can be women too, what does your inclusive feminism look like? Who is it supporting and lifting up? What aspects of feminism are not about sex and gender? Women are oppressed because of their sex and gender is the tool used to oppress them. So how can you have any kind of feminism without discussing sex and or gender….?

may I suggest that you start threads about these topics on feminism chat?

The Women's Rest Room will be open for cakes and recipes, but as no licence, only tea and coffee will be available.

Jokes and jibes are accepted as payment.

A safe space to recuperate and be reinvigorated so as to continue to ignore the relentless finger wagging that it isn't very nice that women get loud and assertive when fighting for their rights.

I don’t use Twitter so I can’t comment on that but every single time I have posted on the feminist board I have been shot down by the majority.

You and other posters say my views are similar to the majority of posters on here but my experience is the complete opposite which I find very frustrating because you can’t have a discussion if posters just shut you straight down.
Most MNers will not even come into the feminist board for this reason.

Of course it’s not every poster but it’s enough to stop people like me posting any more and I believe it’s the reason why the OP wants a thread where things can actually be discussed and not just silence you.

Good idea. People who don't like crate training should have a separate board in the doghouse, for example.

Incidentally, I wouldn't expect the suggestion of a separate board over there on the many and varied and utterly fictitious gender identities of dogs would go over too well, or attract a lot of traffic.

“Derailed”

(challenged)

Just wanted to say I totally get it OP. I was so confused by all the GC nonsense categorised as ‘feminism’ - I have a VERY different understanding of feminism, and my brand of feminism has a different set of priorities (employment and economic equality above bathroom politics). I also find the tone of GC crowd to be incredibly offensive in many instances. I’m sorry you have had so many unpleasant comments. At this point I have given up on discussing this topic on mumsnet - let them shout at each other.

You can post those topics on any relevant board on Mumsnet or even your own section should they give you one. What you can't do is restrict who responds.

So wherever you post it you will get pushback and counter arguments. As someone else pointed out this isn't Twitter and you can't restrict replies from anyone who disagrees.

If you genuinely only want to talk with people who agree with you on sites that will ban any hint of dissent on your behalf then the wider internet is your oyster.