Can MNHQ set up a new discussion category called Feminism: sex & gender discussion (inclusive, non-GC)

No. This board was never set up for GC women. I must point out that is not correct.

This board was always for all feminist discussions about sex and gender. For all posters of both sexes as long as it remained within the feminist parameters.

Do you need anything further from us op, now that you know the board you were looking for already exists?

Oh. And this post above also doesn't constitute 'stalking' you either.

Op has it ever crossed your mind that the vast majority of people who are active feminists might disagree with your premise that feminism should be inclusive of male bodied people ? Maybes that's why you feel drowned out ?

They would engage with you constructively here if you could stop denigrating those who disagree with you. Tell us why you think any poster should engage when your opening post is basically denigrating this board?

I don't know if you've heard of LinkedIn, Instagram and Facebook OP. These obscure rather niche platforms all have lots of "non-GC feminism" boards where "GC feminists" are banned. Maybe they are more up your street. Let me know if you want links.

I would certainly hope that MN do NOT split the Feminism: Sex& Gender topic into GC and non-GC categories. How utterly damning of all of us would it be if we needed two echo chambers instead of one genuine forum. If you want an echo chamber, go on twitter and curate your feed.

And in any case, if we were to do as the OP suggests, why just binary single-view spaces. What about all the various non-binary shades of opinion (aka nuance)? Are we just going to rule that out by fiat, through chat room architecture? Or are we going to proliferate topics every time there is profound disagreement?

What we need is civil discussion between varying views, and MN already work pretty hard to enfoce civility by removing abusive posts. I can certainly understand that it feels uncomfortable to be posting as the representitive of a minority view, but so long as abusive posts are disallowed, we surely need to tolerate that discomfort as the price of participating in discussion of contentious issues.

Yes, weird that - as the sub-category already exists.

I think we are just entertained by the attempted land grab going on.

This is a tough board to post on.

For a reason.

Eh?
That is exactly the point, though.
This, right here, THIS BOARD, was set up for GC women.
If anyone is unsupportive of that, of course their views will be robustly challenged and unwelcome here.
That, OP, is the raison d'etre for the existence of Feminism Chat.

Aren't support threads created for topics where someone wants to feel safe in the sense of most not arguing against the concerns the OP expresses?

Safe spaces are now often used in quite different meanings, ranging from someone not truly being physically safe to demanding no debate that might make a person uncomfortable.

But another definition of a safe space seems important here, and this is the idea that a debate should be a safe space for all to express courteous disagreement without being silenced.

Is it only Monday?

wow - the level of rudeness and passive aggressiveness on this thread is beyond me. Who knew people can be so passionate about a new discussion sub category 😅

man alive woman, the board exists, it's right here

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/feminism

have at it and stop whinging

So, OP, you want a board that's 'inclusive' but that specifically EXCLUDES a group of women on MN? I don't think you know what 'inclusive' means.

The 'sex and gender' board isn't the 'GC' board - anyone can post there, and do. People with different opinions can post anywhere on MN. Plenty of non GC people post on sex and gender, the fact that most posters are GC just reflects MN users.

How would it work - MN can't ban people from certain boards and not others. Are you just asking that all women (and men, presumably) who believe in biological reality should be banned from a parenting website? You do realise that since Maya's case GC beliefs are protected?

You're essentially asking for the equivalent of a board that excludes Muslims, or Christians, or Jewish people.

When you say "feminism board" which one do you mean? Chat or S&G?

I find the suggestion that MN is not a safe space to be rather concerning. Here people have the opportunity to voice their opinions, and to have discussion within the talk guidelines. They are not doxxed. There is no threats of any kind allowed. And if you don't like the discussion, you can hide the thread.

I really wonder at people who want a 'safe space' on a commercial website forum to discuss things or who want the people who post on that website to be welcoming and agreeable.

How do people who expect this deal with real life issues?

it's kind of implicit that unless someone says 'this is a fact and here's the proof' the stuff they type here is their opinion.

you have an opinion, so does the other poster. I really don't see the problem here

err.how is this place not safe? What do you think is going to happen? Or do you mean, the irony of someone wanting an inclusive board but wanting some people excluded? Or someone wanting a board that only discusses what they want to discuss and only people with the right opinions will be able to post?

Yes me too wit the flashbacks. Didn’t some people suggest at the time that FWR stayed as it was and a second board was set up for the lib fems to allow inclusion of penis havers. Perhaps just change the S&G board back to FWR and rename chat for the lib fems.

Why are you sorry for the OPs thread getting lots of replies? Isn't that half the point of starting a discussion thread?

Because we already average around 2 threads a day on this topic on the S&G board (and if you were to post one elsewhere, it would likely be shunted over here by mods within the first hour).