'No nudity' rule in the surf club changing room - Australia

The club CEO is quoted by the BBC as saying "[the club] received complaints from some junior members about being intimidated and uncomfortable. And the story says, "A club spokeswoman said it had received "numerous" complaints about changing room nudity".

The CEO continues "Instead of just putting a blanket "no nudity", if the signs explained why people should refrain from being nude while children were in the change room..."

I note the word 'people' here.

It may be a mixed changing room. But this is Australia. Even if it's called / labelled a women's changing room and shower area, "women" is no longer a biologically based term Down Under.

I thought this too. If no one is allowed to be naked in the changing room then it removes the issue of men who identify as women doing it . Everyone has to be totally covered, end of problem. I think it's very sensible. I don't personally want to see anyone ,apart from my husband,naked for the rest of my life. Its not prudery, its just not necessary .

The principle of safeguarding is that you don't assume anyone is "safe" and have rules in place such that even if someone in a situation is not trustworthy, they still aren't given regular opportunities to do harm. And yet, in many institutions, male people are now allowed in the female changing rooms if they have the appropriate gender identity. So, clearly if you're going to have adult males and teen girls in the same place a "no nudity" rule is very important. And must be publicly and vociferously enforced to ensure people stick to it. Best way to do that is to slap disciplinary measures on the first older woman who gets changed in there knowing that no one currently present is interested in leering at her and just wants to get changed. On the plus side, her having been punished this way means that when a male person with AGP is in there wanting to get a kick from self-exposure, there will be no "discrimination" case to answer, everyone is being treated the same.

See, all we have to do is give up on the idea of safe single-sex spaces and adapt the rules we live by to take account of being in a mixed sex environment at all times, and after that minor adjustment everything is Totally Fine.

@user1492757084 everywhere I have showered post swim, you do so in your costume. But changing under a towel seems unreasonable.

It's madness. But it's the sort of madness that will become more common as authorities try to navigate the transgender agenda.

Surely its a better idea to have set times where its kids only or have parents manage their children and what they see rather than people be unable to use the facilities for their intended purpose.

I thought this was a standard set up in things like public pools. Group change options where women take their children in with them.

I wonder whats happened to create this situation

Very strange.
One expects to be nude in a swimming change room.
There are open showers, for instance, with kids lined up after swimming lessons.
Therefore any one in there will see nudity - should they look about - as kids might.
Not an issue.
People do not swim nor shower fully clothed.

I have to say I felt uncomfortable in the gym changing room the other day when I realised that a couple of the others in there were in fact secondary school pupils. I'm not sure why but it does feel a bit weird to me - maybe because I've done a fair bit of voluntary work with children and young people and safeguarding is always (rightly) so emphasised in the training that I've done - in every context that I've ever volunteered in it would be forbidden to be changing in the same room as teenagers. So maybe my frame of reference is skewed?

That's really odd. I'd like to know the full story.