Is the Trans shooter in Nashville Male or Female?

I'd agree this person was a murder/mass murderer. They had no coherent political strategy. She just seemed determined to commit suicide and take as many people (children, teachers 😔) with her as possible. But, at risk of a derail, other groups will fit the terrorist description because terror is their strategy and it's entirely pejorative.

I saw the film of her shooting the glass out of the doors, all togged up in her camo trousers, it was chilling. To read she'd budgeted time in her last few hours to cuddle her teddies is so sad and...stupid.

I see the double standards, I really do.

I see the concern over teaching kids something in school and then angry kids like this one being able to get hold of a gun easily (although the gun aspect is the most concerning).

But I'm never that comfortable with any murder motives being published too much. It seems to play into the murderer's hands too much, especially when incel or politically motivated. It's giving a platform for terrible behaviour. Maybe I've worked too long in schools but this doesn't make sense to me. It seems that it would only encourage other mixed up individuals to gain a platform in a similar way.

I'm not really that comfortable with calling murderers and mass murderers terrorists too much, for similar reasons. Terrorism might be useful to understand from a prevention point of view, but I'd like terrorists mostly described as murderers in the press. Otherwise it starts to feel as if terror is endorsed as a legitimate political strategy.

At the very least I think there should be considered guidelines, as with suicide reporting.

But it isn't in the public interest.

The public has the right to know the motives here. The fact the 'be kind' brigade don't like it should be irrelevant.

This news article makes me feel genuinely sick. I don't care what sex this person is, they killed 6 people including 3 nine year olds. So, so sad. May she rot.

It's in the media's interest to not let the public know that this person was a typical hate-filled school shooter who didn't even like gay people, not an LBGT+ martyr.

Oh my gods, that's Madonna! She looks like a waxwork. Ugh
So sad there are plenty of attractive mature women.

I don't really see why it's in the public interest to keep this manifesto a secret.

Especially if there is a "social justice" ideological element.

They are teaching this shit to children in schools.

Also reported in the DM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12717155/Nashville-school-shooter-Audrey-Hale-manifesto-leaked-Trans-murderer-vowed-kill-privileged-white-kids-Covenant-School.html

The investigation seems to be genuine

https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1721943940000104896?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Umm...weren't they also white?

I don't know why I'm looking for some logic in this.

An investigation aimed at finding out who leaked this has been launched, so I guess it's real

considering how much surgical work she's had done I can see why she supports surgery for others

I guessed based on the report that said she wanted to stay a child forever

I wonder if it's genuine?

Looks like the manifesto has finally been leaked. Seems that the shooter may have had something against "whites" and "faggots"...

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1721553795971264814

Her timing was not great though, she should have read the room and held off the announcement.

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/madonna-slammed-announcing-trans-rights-concert-nashville-vulnerable-citizens

That would be insane, so it’s good news that your claim is bullshit.

Madonna is holding a benefit concert in Nashville in December in protest at Tennessee’s new anti-drag law. Nowhere has any mention been made of the shooter, but let’s not worry about facts, eh?

“The oppression of the LGBTQ+ is not only unacceptable and inhumane; it’s creating an unsafe environment; it makes America a dangerous place for our most vulnerable citizens, especially trans women of color. Also, these so-called laws to protect our children are unfounded and pathetic. Anyone with half a brain knows not to fuck with a drag queen. Bob and I will see you from the stage in Nashville where we will celebrate the beauty that is the queer community”.

Maybe she could tour for INCELs next.

Why this desperation to divorce this brutal, vicious crime from the trans identity of the murderer?

Red, I agree. The pro trans lobby can be very violent. It may be as simple as all the extra hormones pumped into some of them or just be that so many trans people have mental illness.

Also most trans and/or any other group we can name do not go in for mass shooting and it remains the case that most violence is sadly committed at home by family members (often men against women although sometimes the other way round)

Can you imagine someone shooting many Jews and Muslims in a school and being told it wasn't a targeted attack

If the person doing it was of the same background then I don't imagine it would be framed as an anti-Jewish or anti-muslim attack.

Indeed.

Madonna has being well known for rebelling against Christ, this is a continuation.

Can you imagine someone shooting many Jews and Mislims in a school and being told it wasn't a targeted attack.

The shooter wasn't Christian. She went against all the teachings by her lifestyle choices. She thought that she was God and could create man and wanted like many of her beliefs to be worshipped like a God, I also give you Jeffrey Marsh as another example She thought that she could decide when life ended.

Or Egyptian Christians. Or the plight of Christians in Israel. Or Jerusalem.

The trans shooter is dead and therefore doesn't need any money.