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Labour ‘must fix its trans stance to win the next election’ - party needs to clarify its policies to be closer to the public’s views on the debate

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IwantToRetire · 20/03/2023 00:37

Labour is trying to position itself as the party of the centre-ground of British politics. It has identified middle-aged, suburban women as a target demographic to win over ahead of the general election.

Labour strategists have studied polling that shows how a gender gap in voting has emerged since 2010, whereby women are on average more likely to vote Labour.

But the polling notes that Labour’s advantage is “specifically among women under 50”, while the Tories lead in women over 50.

It comes as a network of Labour activists and staffers prepares to relaunch itself next month as a think tank that will produce monthly reports on how the party can appeal to its target voters.

The organisation, called Labour Together, aims to come up with a raft of policy recommendations that reposition the party as “socially to the Right and economically to the Left”.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/03/18/labour-must-fix-trans-stance-win-next-election/

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BreadInCaptivity · 20/03/2023 02:33

IwantToRetire · 20/03/2023 01:40

BreadInCaptivity Its a different article. Making a different point.

I pulled out the bits I thought most interesting.

You could read the article and see if there are points you find interesting.

For instance:

I find it sad that Labour not only thinks, but claims to have surveys, that say it is only older women who care about women's sex based rights, and that age group of women are less likely to vote for them.

From that they have concluded they can still be politically "left" (ha ha) but need to be socially conservative ie they think and believe they have evidence that only older women who are socially conservative care about women's sex based rights.

It's a different article to the thread title yes, but this article has been posted on there and has been discussed.

dropthevipers · 20/03/2023 01:59

It will take Starmer taking out full page ads in every national newspaper saying "Only women have a cervix and I'm sorry I ever said anything other than that which was clearly patent fucking batshit mental nonsense" before I even begin to believe him. however, having said the previous batshit mental nonsense, how can I take this fucking clown seriously ever again?

IwantToRetire · 20/03/2023 01:40

BreadInCaptivity Its a different article. Making a different point.

I pulled out the bits I thought most interesting.

You could read the article and see if there are points you find interesting.

For instance:

I find it sad that Labour not only thinks, but claims to have surveys, that say it is only older women who care about women's sex based rights, and that age group of women are less likely to vote for them.

From that they have concluded they can still be politically "left" (ha ha) but need to be socially conservative ie they think and believe they have evidence that only older women who are socially conservative care about women's sex based rights.

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EpicChaos · 20/03/2023 00:55

Too late!
The party needs a root and branch change and that includes the leader!

BreadInCaptivity · 20/03/2023 00:55

Starmer: “Gender recognition will not be one of the priorities of the incoming government.” www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4765149-starmer-gender-recognition-will-not-be-one-of-the-priorities-of-the-incoming-government

The article is already being discussed on the thread above.

TheBiologyStupid · 20/03/2023 00:52

Oops, meant to add an archived copy: archive.ph/QNKdt

TheBiologyStupid · 20/03/2023 00:51

It will be interesting to see if that happens. It would certainly make sense, which is probably why I'm doubtful that Labour will actually do it...