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Tw in Cornton Vale segregated because of 'her' safety

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IcakethereforeIam · 17/02/2023 13:14

This story is in the newspaper that carried the latest developments in the tw butcher case

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-prisoner-moved-segregation-womens-29238406

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nilsmousehammer · 18/02/2023 09:32

It doesn't matter whether molesting children and wrecking their lives makes an offender feel better, they cannot bloody do it, and it is not ok .

That is the main issue women have with this whole political ideology in a nutshell. You cannot use non consenting other people as if they are put on this planet as your personal therapy tools without regard for their equal humanity, however much you may feel you need, it deserve it, or are distressed without it.

SinnerBoy · 18/02/2023 09:28

It's just so grotesque and topsy-turvy, isn't it? And all in the name of being kind and right on, with no regards to the women and sometimes children, who are forced to put up with the results.

oakleaffy · 18/02/2023 09:17

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 13:27

^A trans prisoner with a history of sex crimes against children has been moved into segregation in a women’s jail after word got out about her offences.
The Record can reveal that Harryetta Thompson, 33, was allowed to live among the female population of Scotland’s only all-female prison until threats were made against her this week. Registered sex offender Thompson, who has full male physiology...^

"Her" offences, FFS. And it's sod all to do with him being trans and everything to do with him being a paedophile in a women's prison.

That’s grotesque.
A male sex offender in a women’s jail?

Just so sick of men infiltrating our spaces.

A Women’s group l was going to go to said “ Only women, no men, so safe”

And a man was there.

Nope.

SinnerBoy · 18/02/2023 09:14

Helleofabore · Today 08:07

I find it difficult to reconcile people who declare, ‘they would have something terrible happen to them in a male prison’

Yes, why can they not see that he's more than likely to do something terrible to an inmates/s in a women's prison? Why is that seen as irrelevant, or less valid?

In any case, they're very serious about protecting nonces in male prisons, so much so that there are several prisons dedicated to them, with no normal offenders in them.

TrashyPanda · 18/02/2023 08:48

The “risk assessments” done by the SPS concentrate on the male transperson, with little regard given to the female inmates in a women’s prison.

The safety of vulnerable women is ignored and thus directly placed at risk when male transperson in placed among them.

this is basic.

the risk assessments are clearly bigoted.

LizzieSiddal · 18/02/2023 08:27

I’m glad the women in that prison have made it clear they’ve had enough of this shit.
Male prisoners wouldn't put up with a sex offender in “normal” prison areas. Why the heck should women?!

BashirWithTheGoodBeard · 18/02/2023 08:16

nilsmousehammer · 17/02/2023 13:51

Well done to the women prisoners who refused to soldier.

Yes. I wish we had their details, I'd love to send them some cash by way of a thank you.

Helleofabore · 18/02/2023 08:07

I find it difficult to reconcile people who declare, ‘they would have something terrible happen to them in a male prison’ with actually giving a fuck about the women they expect these prisoners to be shields for.

There are places for vulnerable males. If there are not enough of them, then more are needed.

The very fact that Thompson’s mother says that their child often reacts sexually to adversity should be all any person fucking needs to know about whether this person should be or shouldn’t be in the female prison.

It is sad that thIs person has been bullied and has very poor decision making ability. But that is NOT an excuse to be in the female prison.

Fuck! Too many people really do expect women to be shields and human support resources don’t they?

SinnerBoy · 18/02/2023 07:53

ArabellaScott · Today 07:46

Mother of Harryetta says the crimes are a 'coping mechanism'

I struggle to see how molesting young boys helps him to cope with anything. Has anyone else got any ideas?

ArabellaScott · 18/02/2023 07:46

Mother of Harryetta says the crimes are a 'coping mechanism'

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/mum-segregated-trans-prisoner-doesnt-29243734

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2023 20:33

JaneorEleven · 17/02/2023 20:03

“A prison source said: “Thompson is a disturbed individual and very volatile but prisoners have accepted her up to this week.

“She was overheard on the phone, making clear that her history includes sex crime involving children – and that’s a game changer.”

“but prisoners have accepted “her” up to this week”. I highly doubt that, utter BS. It’s just that this week women are finally being listened to.

I hope that women in prison know that we are thinking of them and doing our best to help ensure they aren't subjected to mixed sex prisons. I hope the uproar and outrage in the media at Isla Bryson reached them and that they feel empowered to say when they are not comfortable.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 17/02/2023 20:29

I guess this is why the SNP were being very careful with their wording: No trans women in female jail have history of violence against women, says Justice Secretary Keith Brown

news.sky.com/story/no-trans-women-in-female-jail-have-history-of-violence-against-women-says-justice-secretary-keith-brown-12799278

DuesToTheDirt · 17/02/2023 20:14

DuesToTheDirt · 17/02/2023 19:55

So why are the current reports referring to him as a man, with his male name (unlike the previous reports where he was called a woman with a silly female name)?

Sorry, ignore me, I was confusing this person with the Galashiels butcher, who has been reported as male (these people are multiplying before our eyes!)

JaneorEleven · 17/02/2023 20:03

“A prison source said: “Thompson is a disturbed individual and very volatile but prisoners have accepted her up to this week.

“She was overheard on the phone, making clear that her history includes sex crime involving children – and that’s a game changer.”

“but prisoners have accepted “her” up to this week”. I highly doubt that, utter BS. It’s just that this week women are finally being listened to.

DuesToTheDirt · 17/02/2023 19:55

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2023 16:34

2013 article, so has been trans for a long time.

So why are the current reports referring to him as a man, with his male name (unlike the previous reports where he was called a woman with a silly female name)?

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 16:36

RoyalCorgi · Today 15:48

There was a time when the Guardian would have run a sympathetic piece about vulnerable women prisoners being locked up with murderers. Not now. It's all about how the nasty feminists who made a fuss about it have hurt trans people. Could the Guardian sink any lower?

It's so depressing, isn't it? I first read the Guardian at 23, in an FE College library and soon came to enjoy it, but now? It's the same with Labour, who can I bloody well vote for now?

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2023 16:34

2013 article, so has been trans for a long time.

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 16:34

SignOnTheWindow · Today 15:40

I was thinking more Euripides' Bacchae...

That's the one I actually meant, but I couldn't bring it to mind.

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2023 16:33

www.gallowaygazette.co.uk/news/port-william-woman-fined-after-sex-act-2349481

'A Port William woman who performed a sex act at the

window of her home was fined £180 at the Sheriff Court in Stranraer on Tuesday.

Harryetta Thompson, 24, of 18 Manx View, had admitted the lewd behaviour at an earler diet.

Her solicitor, Michael Kilkerr, said what happened could

be attributed to the “harassment and discriminatory

behaviour” the accused was subjected to within a very small community.'

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2023 16:25

The furore surrounding the placement of transgender offenders in Scottish prisons has sharpened personal safety fears across Scotland’s LGBTQ+ community, the Guardian has been told

No shit. I expect all the women in Scottish prisons, and their family and friends, have safety fears.

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2023 16:24

If this really is Harryetta's Twitter, and what it says is true, then has id'd as trans since age 18.

'AT THE AGE OF 18 I DECIDED TO GO ON THE SANDY CLINIC
WAITING LIST SCOTLAND GLASGOW,
BUT THEY NEGLECTED MY TREATMENT FOR 12 YEARS'

twitter.com/harryettathomp1

RoyalCorgi · 17/02/2023 15:48

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 13:34

www.theguardian.com/society/2023/feb/17/transgender-prison-row-heightens-safety-fears-in-scotlands-lgbtq-community

Whine, whine, whine etc.

The furore surrounding the placement of transgender offenders in Scottish prisons has sharpened personal safety fears across Scotland’s LGBTQ+ community, the Guardian has been told.

No concrete examples, for some reason.

“I’ve heard from a lot of people who are very frightened,” said Jennie Kermode...

“I’ve had a number of people say they’ve had family members getting in touch to have fractious conversations,” Valentine added.

People are saying, I have heard .... straight out of the Donald Trump handbook.

There was a time when the Guardian would have run a sympathetic piece about vulnerable women prisoners being locked up with murderers. Not now. It's all about how the nasty feminists who made a fuss about it have hurt trans people. Could the Guardian sink any lower?

Americansmoothy · 17/02/2023 15:46

IcakethereforeIam · 17/02/2023 14:32

Does anyone know when Harryetta (ffs) discovered his 'authentic self'? Is he an example of prison onset gender dysphoria? I can't remember if it said in the article.

Isn’t it amazing how many new types of GD are being identified all the time. We now have:

  • original GD
  • Rapid onset GD - teen girls who find the idea of being women so horrific in this misogynistic world they want to mutilate their bodies to become men
  • INCEL onset GD
  • Arrest for sex offences onset GD
  • Prison onset GD
  • AGP onset GD
  • Can’t win in men’s sport onset GD
  • Exhibitionist onset GD
  • Voyeur onset GD

Wouldn’t it be good if the gmt collected robust data to identify the onset and how many detransition when they don’t get convicted, don’t get a custodial sentence, get out of prison, get to old to beat women at sport etc.

After all there is no way this data could possibly reveal that gasp shock horror men pretend to be GD is to avoid male prisons and to rape and sexually assault women. No that couldn’t be possible as it would make all those old fashioned wimmin right.

SignOnTheWindow · 17/02/2023 15:40

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 14:00

nilsmousehammer · Today 13:51#

Well done to the women prisoners who refused to soldier.

Yes, it seems as though they were about to re-enact Diana and Actaeon.

I was thinking more Euripides' Bacchae...

GailBlancheViola · 17/02/2023 15:23

SinnerBoy · 17/02/2023 15:22

Oops! Sorry about that. I'd best do a quick reset - there, back to insane lies again, situation normal!

😂