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The Hannah Barnes book

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RoyalCorgi · 14/02/2023 12:37

There have been discussions about the book on different threads relating to various interviews with Barnes or pieces about the book. Thought it would be useful to bring everything on to one thread.

This review by Sarah Ditum is excellent and very moving:

unherd.com/2023/02/the-tragedy-of-becoming-a-woman/

Another good one from Suzanne Moore:

suzannemoore.substack.com/p/a-review-of-time-to-think-the-book

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fabricstash · 05/03/2023 16:05

Well I went into Waterstones in Bristol and asked. They said they were sold out, i asked to order it and the man told me it was sold out online too. Checked on phone 5 minutes later and it is available on Waterstones website so was a blatant lie!! This book is in the top 10 this week! Do they not want customers?

TheBiologyStupid · 05/03/2023 15:55

Waterstones have it listed on their website: www.waterstones.com/book/time-to-think/hannah-barnes/9781800751118

IcakethereforeIam · 05/03/2023 15:43

Sorry, are Waterstones not stocking it or have they run out?

MavisMcMinty · 05/03/2023 15:39

Same here, @StephanieSuperpowers . Now getting to a part where principled clinicians, excited and proud to be working for the renowned Tavistock, but after raising justifiable concerns were labelled “transphobic”, which of course is as silencing as it’s intended to be, and reflective of social media in general. Only when I left Twitter and came to Mumsnet have I been able to comment, or question, without getting piled on by one side or t’other.

StephanieSuperpowers · 05/03/2023 14:23

Having said that, it's so surreal to read. I'm constantly having to take breaks to figure out whether I just read that.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/03/2023 13:53

The research is impressive. It's chilling to see how appalling groups like Mermaids and GIRES were able to influence the healthcare of children like this. All funded by the NHS.

MavisMcMinty · 05/03/2023 13:05

There are 60 pages of references and notes at the end. Barnes did a lot more research than anyone at GIDS ever did.

SallyLockheart · 05/03/2023 13:03

Bought my copy from newish small independent. Staff member said it had been popular. Not stocked at Waterstones btw.
excellent book, very thorough research

rioseco · 05/03/2023 12:31

Shelf obvsBlush

rioseco · 05/03/2023 12:30

I wandered into an independent bookshop in my middle class, rather bohemian rural town to order this book.
As soon as I mentioned Hannah Barnes,the young woman serving ( hippy style, piercings etc) said oh yes and led me to the shelve where there were 3 copies.
A big smile and 'it's going to be a tough read' at the till.
Couldn't believe it.Smile

NotyourMrs · 05/03/2023 11:32

The tragedy of a misogynistic world is that it makes girls believe they need a cure for femaleness. The scandal of GIDS is that it pretended it could supply one

TheBiologyStupid · 05/03/2023 11:21

That's a good article by Hadley - fingers crossed that she is right about the "vibe shift".

WarriorN · 05/03/2023 07:47

Mine did actually come when I was moaning that it hadn't but I hadn't heard the postman!

Getting brain back after covid infection before tackling.

The massive irony also being I was prescribed testosterone the same week as it was released which may be giving me the concentration to actually have enough concentration to read a serious book like this. That that place wanted to inhibit the natural brain boosting hormones of children is is beyond horrific.

theveg · 05/03/2023 07:29

I'm halfway through too. Just read fairly jaw dropping section on the over representation of gay and autistic children.

Love Hadleys's article too!

WarriorN · 05/03/2023 07:23

According to Private Eye, books by women that question gender ideology, such as Material Girls by Kathleen Stock and Trans by Helen Joyce, were similarly rejected by every publisher but one — and then went on to sell by the truckload. By contrast, the trans activist Munroe Bergdorf had 11 publishers fighting to publish her memoir, Transitional, and got a six-figure deal. A week after it was published last month, it was at No 2,838 in the Amazon charts.

<snort>

Thanks for the share!

chilling19 · 05/03/2023 06:21

My post about Hadley Freeman's great article in The Times about the fall of censorship has been captured by the MNHQ algorithm - but check out on archive dot is.

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MavisMcMinty · 05/03/2023 01:45

I’m about halfway through Time To Think, and the words that keep springing to mind are “incredible!” and “unbelievable!” but of course it’s all too credible and believable, having worked in the NHS for 35 years. Have to keep putting it down and doing a killer sudoku to process what I’m reading.

RoyalCorgi · 27/02/2023 08:25

Interesting to see the pic of Justin Webb at the launch! Good for him.

Idiotic of those publishers to turn it down, though. The book has had nothing but excellent reviews, and I think in future it will be seen as having played a major part in exposing a medical scandal, much like the Sunday Times's role in Thalidomide.

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ResisterRex · 26/02/2023 07:52

Well, shame on those publishers.

I really hope Hannah has the final laugh here. I loved the photo of her with Justin Webb (he’s not afraid of being “cancelled”).

This has reminded me to order the book. Thank you!

WarriorN · 26/02/2023 08:34

Thank you so much for the link. Her tenacity and bravery are very much to be admired. (I do also wonder if Swift knew how well Helen Joyce's book was received and did too.)

I remember Stella O Malley being shocked at similar responses when she made her channel 4 documentary. The "making of" documentary they did afterwards was as interesting and scary as the original. A producer saying that he'd had more willingness to talk from both sides of Israel/ Palestine than he'd seen around trans medical care for children.

I still cannot get my head around how and why people cannot think critically and see the harm and idiocy with unquestioningly affirming children and handing out horrific drugs like sweets.

It's going to be a long road gathering evidence but it's the only way it can work.

ResisterRex · 26/02/2023 07:52

Hannah Barnes: My Tavistock exposé scared off 22 publishers

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ad1604d8-b489-11ed-b79d-a407b2bc707f?shareToken=0b703b4934e7b17b3636b25c9dfc4aec

chilling19 · 26/02/2023 04:43

@MNHQ - Not sure what happened to my previous comment

chilling19 · 26/02/2023 04:40

Hannah Barnes in The Times today archive.is/BiCny

Well done Swift Publishing 👏👏