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The Hannah Barnes book

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RoyalCorgi · 14/02/2023 12:37

There have been discussions about the book on different threads relating to various interviews with Barnes or pieces about the book. Thought it would be useful to bring everything on to one thread.

This review by Sarah Ditum is excellent and very moving:

unherd.com/2023/02/the-tragedy-of-becoming-a-woman/

Another good one from Suzanne Moore:

suzannemoore.substack.com/p/a-review-of-time-to-think-the-book

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MavisMcMinty · 06/03/2023 18:53

On the Conclusion chapter now, and wondering how Polly Carmichael must be feeling. So far she has been treated very neutrally by the book, but this does read like a cult of (her) personality. It was very much her empire.

I just can’t get over the lack of audit and data. Late in the book it’s revealed that GIDS did/does actually have its own research team - I’d like to know what the blithering flip they did/do with their time.

ArabellaScott · 06/03/2023 18:47

'Best New Non-fiction we don't sell'

ResisterRex · 06/03/2023 18:05

I wonder what happened

twitter.com/hannahsbee/status/1632803196572770304?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

"Great to see Time to Think featuring on Waterstones’s website under ‘Our Best New Non-Fiction’"

HuggingtheHRT · 06/03/2023 17:20

Not on sale in my local Waterstones so resorted to Amazon. It arrived today.

If anyone from Waterstones management is on Mumsnet, take note: you should stock what people WANT to read. Not what your 18 year old Saturday girl thinks everyone should be told to read.

IcakethereforeIam · 06/03/2023 16:28

Waterstones seems to be trending for, as far as i can see, reasons connected to the difficulties in getting a copy of Time to Think and, possibly, their promotion of the St Hell book.

ArabellaScott · 06/03/2023 16:20

twitter.com/K_F_P/status/1623662583499616256

Waterstones just had a drag queen in - the same one who attracted attention before for his demonstration showing children how to twerk.

WarriorN · 06/03/2023 15:39

This is slightly more positive in Hay on wye:

twitter.com/gappytales/status/1632745865642229760?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

FrancescaContini · 06/03/2023 13:14

Zeugma · 06/03/2023 12:46

Trouble getting the book from certain, you know, bookshops? Well who’da thunk it? This from Twitter yesterday:

twitter.com/littlehardman/status/1632287118427865088?s=46&t=HayxxYISkdxqZGELM1SOCg

Interesting. I’m going to show this to the bookstore I visit this afternoon.

SulisMinerva · 06/03/2023 13:03

I went into my local Waterstones at the weekend intending to buy either Time to Think or Hags. Neither were anywhere to be found. I like to support physical bookshops but I can’t be arsed with this sort of shenanigans.

ResisterRex · 06/03/2023 12:57

Thing is, this does all look like there are questions. And if it's the worst case, then going straight in at no1 or the top 3 may have been sabotaged. If that's the case then it's serious. There seem to be enough queries though, for some journos to have a dig.

ArabellaScott · 06/03/2023 12:54

TangledUpinBlu · 06/03/2023 12:53

Anyone struggling to buy a copy, you can ask your library if they will buy one, might be a good idea anyway to make it available to more eyes

excellent idea.

TangledUpinBlu · 06/03/2023 12:53

Anyone struggling to buy a copy, you can ask your library if they will buy one, might be a good idea anyway to make it available to more eyes

ArabellaScott · 06/03/2023 12:51

tinkerella1 · 06/03/2023 12:26

I’d say they have regional buyers who are choosing not to stock Time To Think.
It’s not available in Richmond, Wandsworth, Clapham and Victoria. I guess the SW London buyer doesn’t like bestsellers

Yep.

Zeugma · 06/03/2023 12:46

Trouble getting the book from certain, you know, bookshops? Well who’da thunk it? This from Twitter yesterday:

twitter.com/littlehardman/status/1632287118427865088?s=46&t=HayxxYISkdxqZGELM1SOCg

IcakethereforeIam · 06/03/2023 12:45

It seems to be available at all the Waterstones near me (NW) but I'm sure I saw a tweet yesterday that implied it was a deliberate decision to not stock it in London.

FrancescaContini · 06/03/2023 12:45

Thanks for the reminder - I need to collect my copy today.

kindlyensure · 06/03/2023 12:36

Ooh was just going to see if there was a comment re Waterstones. I can confirm that my local (Victoria) also did not stock (as of last week) and they could only find 2 physical copies in the whole of London.

They recommended I ordered online (they did not say they would send it in unmarked packaging but I got that vibe! )

tinkerella1 · 06/03/2023 12:26

I’d say they have regional buyers who are choosing not to stock Time To Think.
It’s not available in Richmond, Wandsworth, Clapham and Victoria. I guess the SW London buyer doesn’t like bestsellers

TheBiologyStupid · 06/03/2023 11:02

ArabellaScott · 06/03/2023 10:22

Munroe Bergdorf's 'Time to Transition' is available in every Glasgow branch of Waterstones, meanwhile.

Haud me back.

Well, they need to store them somewhere before they get pulped...!

Xiaoxiong · 06/03/2023 10:59

It's completely bizarre. I've just rung up my local Waterstones to ask about Hags as well, which was published last week - 3-4 weeks for online delivery (for a newly published book!!) and can't order into the store.

I apparently can click and collect at a store that is an hour away, but the same store won't let me click and collect Time to Think. (I can click and collect Time to Think in High Wycombe but not Hags, I can click and collect Hags in Richmond but not Time to Think, I can click and collect both on Kensington High Street but neither in either Windsor or Victoria?!)

tinkerella1 · 06/03/2023 10:33

Yep it’s not in stock in either of my local branches.
Bergdorph’s is but then I guess they’re desperate to shift stock. Wonder how long they wait before sending to pulp.

It’s a bizarre way to do business. Hide the bestseller!

ArabellaScott · 06/03/2023 10:28

ResisterRex · 06/03/2023 10:08

Sounds like there's a story worth following up around Waterstone's. Are they suppressing this book or not?

Not just this book, is it?

If I was a journalist I might be asking some questions.

ArabellaScott · 06/03/2023 10:22

Munroe Bergdorf's 'Time to Transition' is available in every Glasgow branch of Waterstones, meanwhile.

Haud me back.

The Hannah Barnes book