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Suzanne Moore: Trans activists are giving men even more power over women

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ResisterRex · 24/01/2023 07:07

In today's Telegraph:

www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/01/24/trans-activists-giving-men-even-power-women/

"The row over the Scottish Gender Recognition certificate has caused some particular nasties to crawl out. None of this is new; some trans activists set off a smoke bomb in 2019 next to a meeting at Grenfell, causing huge distress. Woman’s Place meetings are always picketed and women have to meet in secret. Film screenings are stopped by loud, stubbled men in frocks. Professional women, as we know, lose jobs over this issue and some are advised to have personal security. For saying what? That biology exists.

This madness could be dialled down a notch if all this intimidation was condemned. Keir Starmer could do it, the unions could do it, university vice chancellors could do it. Are these institutions happy with the situation? For pity’s sake, don’t ‘both sides’ this. Women are not threatening trans people. The mantra that somehow debating our legal rights means denying their existence is nonsensical. Of course trans people exist, but so does male violence and provision has to be made to protect women from it where possible.
SNP politicians happily posed with protestors with signs saying Decapitate TERFss_. Oh, they did not know what they were doing? Well, “Open your eyes” is all I can say. You are doing trans people no favours at all – for most of these activists are guys who have just found a new channel for their misogyny and get a cheap thrill wearing female underwear while doing it."

Ends:

"I am proud to live on ‘Terf Island’ where critical thinking is allowed, and we do not do what men tell us. We are in it for the long haul and if certain politicians do not recognise that, we simply will not recognise them – however they identify themselves."

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RoyalCorgi · 24/01/2023 10:12

I agree, nils. There's been a definite shift over the last couple of weeks. The mention of autogynephilia in a mainstream national newspaper is one manifestation of this. Another is the way that people on Twitter are referring to India Willoughby by Willoughby's "deadname" and showing pictures of Willoughby pre-transition - this would have been unimaginable before Musk took over. Once you have people saying "I won't play pretend any more", then the game is well on the way to being up. And there is nothing that Willoughby or Willoughby's chums can do about it.

nilsmousehammer · 24/01/2023 10:07

The gloves have really come off following the incidents of last weekend and weekend. It's become apparent that any line on fairness, right and wrong has disappeared completely, and that our elective representatives have apparently no standards at all, either among themselves or coming down from the top. People are looking going 'what happens when things go too far? Because they just did?' and discovering that actually nothing will. Nothing at all.

NancyDrawed · 24/01/2023 09:39

ResisterRex · 24/01/2023 09:22

And: "most of these activists are guys who have just found a new channel for their misogyny and get a cheap thrill wearing female underwear while doing it."

Add that to yesterday's bit from Nick Timothy;

Autogynephilia, the feeling of sexual arousal some men feel as they pretend to be women, is according to some researchers behind many or even most cases of gender dysphoria among those born as men. It is legitimate to ask whether non-consenting women ought to be participants in such sexual fantasies

and Telegraph readers are getting quite the lesson on these issues!

teawamutu · 24/01/2023 09:38

BOOM. A triple espresso of a piece.

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ResisterRex · 24/01/2023 09:22

And: "most of these activists are guys who have just found a new channel for their misogyny and get a cheap thrill wearing female underwear while doing it."

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Apollo441 · 24/01/2023 09:18

To quote 'stubbled men in dresses'. There's a phrase you couldn't have used until recently. Times are changing.

IcakedefargeIam · 24/01/2023 08:59

Nice to see a link to the Equality Act petition, wish it had been in the article but there's probably rules. Not so nice to see comments from the vintage misogynist who are blaming this all on feminists.

334bu · 24/01/2023 07:30

Thank you for the link.

BettyFilous · 24/01/2023 07:16

Well said Suzanne. I’m sorry Suzanne had such a torrid time at the Guardian that she had to leave but I’m also glad she did. Like Hadley, it’s good that these strong women can now speak freely.