Hadley Freeman's First Column for the Sunday Times

Oh... I can, I only seem to be able to paste it in the app, I was using the browser to search for this thread, couldn't paste it there for some reason.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/freeman-leads-the-feminist-fightback-ttmbhx0sh?shareToken=453fa92b52b6e1485bada511b8bea6e1

There are some good letters in the Times today in response to the article

I don’t seem to be able to get a shared link to the letters page

I know. Excellent bloody articles, regularly. Utter bastards.

I think it's an underhand trick on the Times part to duplicitously get me to keep subscribing by the conscienceless trick of employing writers I want to read.

Thanks @nauticant! Must have happened when I flipped the thread.

Yes, go to that webpage and at the bottom you can click on Unhide.

Yes, go to that webpage and at the bottom you can click on Unhide.

Dunno. What happens when you click on this:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4691720-hadley-freeman-on-womans-hour-shortly

I must have a accidentally hidden it. Anyone how I can unhide a thread?

That was a good interview. That two of her articles were used as examples of transphobia is really shocking. Do these people who do this, and using Clare Dimyon's letter as another example, not understand that what they have just done is 'hateful' as they are aiming their pointy fingers of shame directly at individuals. Either patients or co-workers in these two instances.

It is direct discrimination to use these specific articles and letters as examples, surely?

Re: Stonewall. It's worth listening to the podcast 'Nolan Investigates' on this organisation. It is comprehensive. Its goes into almost too much detail in numerous episodes but it does give an understanding as to how much influence this body has had on the gender issue. An unhealthy amount of power in high places has distorted healthy discussion. At least the BBC supported the podcast, even if they were themselves one of the culprits.

Listening now - she is absolutely brilliant.

And it's so telling that Kath Viner refused to come on and defend her terrible failure of leadership.

Where is the discussion about HF on Woman's Hour gone?

Hadley was on Radio 4's Women's Hour today, it's well worth a listen. How she stayed so long at the Guardian, I have no idea!

Thanks for the update RoyalCorgi.

Nick Cohen's Spectator article is very good. He has written occasional gc pieces in the past. My understanding is that he's now been let go from the Observer.

If it is the same Nick Cohen he seems almost GC (or perhaps trans-sceptic), which I don't recall from any Guardian pieces.

It is the same person, icakethereforiam. So far as I know, his Guardian column is still on hold pending an investigation. There was a thread about it a while ago.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4603590-nick-cohen-suspended-over-trans-rights-row

He has written a few articles like the one you've linked to. The Corbynistas always disliked him for being a 'centrist'. In the old days of print journalism, his column was in The Observer, not The Guardian. The Observer was always more middle of the road politically than The Guardian.

Thanks for the alert to Woman's Hour, nauticant. It has improved beyond all measure with the new presenters in my opinion. Or perhaps the editorial policies have changed. Either way, it has had some very good, albeit harrowing, interviews, like the one with Rachael Watts last week.

Good to see Hadley Freeman off to a strong start in The Sunday Times.

Woman's Hour could be a good listen at 10am this morning:

We talk to the journalist Hadley Freeman about why she resigned as a columnist at The Guardian newspaper after 22 years in the job. She has accused the publication of “censoring” discussion about gender identity and says she was discouraged from writing about antisemitism. Emma Barnett speaks to Hadley about her concerns and plans for the future.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001fvx6

What's going on at the Guardian? I stumbled across this article by Nick Cohen writing for the Spectator. I'm assuming it's the same guy who writes, should that be wrote, regularly for the Guardian.

Is it the fellow about whom allegations of impropriety have been made?

Anyway, it's a reasonably good piece on threats to free speech. Doc. Stock is referenced (I find what she went through heart-rending, I hope she's in a good space now and gets vindication and justice).

If it is the same Nick Cohen he seems almost GC (or perhaps trans-sceptic), which I don't recall from any Guardian pieces.

I don't think it deserves its own thread, so (with apologies for any derail) I'm putting it here with Hadley Free(dwo)man.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/a-culture-of-fear-has-taken-over-academia-and-the-arts/#comments-container

Bugger it, I'm going to have to go and buy an actual paper to say thank you, aren't I??

Thank you OP a great piece by Hadley

Thank you for the share token. It was an interesting read, but as always useful to read decent critiques on here.

Sorry forgot to thank Igneococcus for the share token

I've been an unashamed Hadley Freeman fan since she was on the Guardian fashion desk but I do get what IwantToRetire is saying. It says at the end that Hadley doesn't start her regular column until next year, and I can imagine the Sunday Times asking her for an 'Introduce yourself to our readers' kind of article. I get the sense she already had this one sketched out waiting to go, had maybe even tried to persuade the Guardian to run, which would explain the number of American references.

I hope she'll be able to continue her interviews with the Sunday Times because I think they're superb. She's great on films and fashion too.

I also notice the editorial note that says she'll be writing 'exclusively for the Sunday Times' which presumably means that's the last we'll see of her writing for Unherd which is a shame.

Thanks for the share token, Igneococcus. I enjoyed it. I thought she conveyed a lot of important points, like the comments from the UN rapporteur on self ID in Scotland, in a readable way.