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Sex Equality and Equity Network - Gender crit network for civil servants.

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fromorbit · 10/11/2022 10:06

Important new initiative for government workers. This is where a huge fight back is going to happen in behind the scenes government, in memos and meetings. If we don't win in the civil service, it doesn't matter how many demos or cases we win, how many twitter threads we write, sooner or later sex differences will be erased. If you work in government/public sector get involved asp.

seen-network.uk/

"We are happy to announce the launch of our new UK cross-government staff network, the Sex Equality and Equity Network.
SEEN is a staff network committed to promoting and supporting sex equality and equity between women and men in our workplaces, and helping all staff to thrive at work and fulfil their potential. The focus of our network is on challenging sex discrimination and upholding rights and protections that relate to sex (including the protections provided to those with the protected characteristics of sex, pregnancy and maternity and sexual orientation, as set out in the Equality Act 2010). We recognise that to achieve this and ensure sex equality and equity sometimes requires treating women and men differently, according to our different rights and needs.

We are also committed to the protected belief (covered by the protected characteristic of religion and belief in the Equality Act 2010) that biological sex is binary and immutable, that biological sex matters for both women and men in our everyday lives, including for our rights and needs in the workplace, and that biological sex must not be conflated with, or replaced by, the concepts of gender or gender identity."

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TheBiologyStupid · 17/12/2022 23:52

+1

Here's an archived copy: archive.ph/8Dk5e

334bu · 17/12/2022 23:21

Thank you for link.

Slothtoes · 13/12/2022 22:52

The ALBs are extremely specialised to what they do and we really need that specificity sometimes.

oliver123 · 13/12/2022 15:01

I know what you mean - the quantity and ‘why’? I remember the so-called bonfire of the quangos years ago…. (under Cameron?) A bit like the Hydra, they’ve just grown back 😂 as the cutting costs headlines hid the fact that there are specific needs for them.

Tallisker · 13/12/2022 11:43

Sorry I wasn't doubting, I just couldn't imagine what MoD ALBs could be. Thanks to oliver I now know!

Found some for my own department that I didn't know about too, so thank you.

oliver123 · 13/12/2022 11:36

The UK govt website lists the ALBs for all depts (scroll down to see the MoDs). The MoD has 26 and includes the 3 armed forces museums, advisory bodies, research, equipment/components/services development & delivery, medical/safety, pensions committees, and so on. All specialised & varying sizes etc.

Tallisker · 13/12/2022 10:15

Didn't know the MoD had ALBs Smile

greeboclovis · 13/12/2022 07:51

Aaah thanks!

ABrotherWhoLooksLikeHellMugYou · 12/12/2022 20:15

greeboclovis · 12/12/2022 19:46

ALB?

Arms length body.

An org affiliated with government but not pure civil service. Like the environment agency.

greeboclovis · 12/12/2022 19:46

CrookedRiver · 12/12/2022 15:53

I'm from a highly captured MOD ALB.

ALB?

CrookedRiver · 12/12/2022 15:53

I'm from a highly captured MOD ALB.

Princessglittery · 12/12/2022 14:25

The big question is how those 1 million training days are split across the 9 protected characteristics.

Birdsweepsin · 11/12/2022 22:18

Last bit

Sex Equality and Equity Network - Gender crit network for civil servants.
Birdsweepsin · 11/12/2022 22:17

Tomorrow's Telegraph: One million civil service days a year ‘wasted on equality and diversity training’

Sex Equality and Equity Network - Gender crit network for civil servants.
Sex Equality and Equity Network - Gender crit network for civil servants.
blockedonoursystems · 07/12/2022 21:24

Hi @greeboclovis

oliver123 · 07/12/2022 20:57

👋 @greeboclovis 😊

Frecklefacestrawberry · 07/12/2022 20:35

Any DfE people here?

greeboclovis · 07/12/2022 20:21

👋👋👋👋 @Elephant2981 @oliver123 @blockedonoursystems

Elephant2981 · 07/12/2022 17:49

oliver123 · 07/12/2022 17:24

@blockedonoursystems @Elephant2981 👋👋👋 back….

Thanks both, PM'd you

dandelionthistle · 07/12/2022 17:27

LK1972 · 07/12/2022 13:02

@dandelionthistle I've chased yesterday and got this in response:
'Sorry for the delay we're still setting up our data process, but hope to get back to everyone soon. Your request has not been forgotten!'

So all seems fine Smile

Ah great, thanks! Yes @EnoughPlayingNice I got that holding reply quite quickly too but it seemed quite a long time to not have heard anything further.

oliver123 · 07/12/2022 17:24

@blockedonoursystems @Elephant2981 👋👋👋 back….

blockedonoursystems · 07/12/2022 17:20

Waves at @Elephant2981 and @oliver123 - me!!!

oliver123 · 07/12/2022 16:26

Long-time lurker here. Yep, I’m at one of MoD’s ALBs - we are quite captured….

EnoughPlayingNice · 07/12/2022 16:25

I got an email acknowledging my request pretty quickly - couple of days, I think.