Sex Equality and Equity Network - Gender crit network for civil servants.

I'm pretty sure that unsafe person is in tears because of the hideousness of the thread. She's an ardent feminist I've seen on various women's networks meetings and she is massively pro women. I think she might be taking the piss.

In case posters on here are not aware of it, there is a thread on this board devoted to getting this petition signed:

Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex

What do you mean it was an interview piece?

I should add that this was an interview piece, so not the department directly writing the words. But I’d argue it’s still not ok

This is very good news.

Maybe they're saying "beware of these people because they know the actual legal position"!

It's utterly unacceptable.

I have not seen anything on yammer at my Department today, but there is an article for trans awareness week that urges us as allies to ‘be wary of anyone saying that trans rights are in conflict with any one else’s rights’. How is that acceptable?!

I noticed that the balanced and neutral HR Director yammer post (similar wording to what Border said above) was liked by the HR DG - that was positive.

But there are new posts popping up as fast as they close the main ones, it seems that lots of people wish to demonstrate their allyship.

‘Unsafe’ at work. Riiiight. I pity their managers trying to restrain a massive eye roll.

I've not liked or commented on the yammer thread but I did want to in order to show that lone voice that they weren't alone. Unfortunately I feel like I'd be viewed in the same way as a climate change denier, so I take comfort that I've found a place here

Interestingly, the biggest push back has been from a man (or at least a male name) and those comments have been liked by mainly male names. Whereas all the gushing "we love all trans people who can do no harm/noone would ever pretend to be trans to harm a cis person" comments and likes on those have been from female names. Says quite a lot that so many of us on this thread (me included) don't feel able to contribute/support/like any of the GC posts

Quite right, everyone should be copying and pasting that everywhere tbh.

Someone is claiming to be left in tears and feeling unsafe at work because of the thread

And it has now been closed again, good guess Sunseeker

That's excellent, Borderline

I predict that yammer thread will be closed again soon.

I think one appropriate response to that sort of post would be something like

As civil servants, we need to act with impartiality, regardless of our personal beliefs. We also need to be aware that, just as those beliefs, widely held on this yammer thread, are protected under the Equality Act 2010, so are the beliefs that biological sex is binary and immutable, and that biological sex matters, including in the workplace. We need to be cognisant that there is likely to be diversity of belief in our workplace, just as there is diversity of belief in the population we serve, and should be careful to avoid behaviour that may cross the line into bullying, harassment or discrimination against those whose beliefs are different to our own.

If someone were to post, for example, that womanhood is an identity and a state of mind, what would an appropriate response be? And that DSDs prove that sex isn't binary?

Sometimes questions are asked on how institutions have become so captured by gender identity ideology, and now I know. It's because those who influence policy are fully immersed in the ideology and put forward and insist on the women-exclusionary language, they use all the words such as assigned at birth, most oppressed, sex is a spectrum etc and this becomes embedded in the documents, policy, advice given to ministers and directors. Unbe-chuffing-lievable.

@Borderlinehungry Sorry, feeling a tad on edge rn due to that ongoing effing yammer thread

@LK1972 sorry, backwards clumsy phrasing on my part. Trying to say women on this thread have been bullied, harassed and discriminated against, but apparently I’m incoherent with rage and said the opposite. Bollocks.

@Borderlinehungry Examples please, otherwise you're lying and slandering women on this thread.

I’d also echo the calls to whistleblow through official channels rather than leak to the media/interest groups. That would be a clear breach of the Civil Service Code imho.

Shame the People Survey has closed already. There is a lot of bullying, harassment and discrimination on the grounds of belief on show in this thread.

I think the one being discussed is the Defra yammer, other yammers are available, I'm sure 😁