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Jigsaw PSHE resources

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HHH3 · 01/10/2022 14:48

Just looking through DS2’s primary school website at their PSHE policies. They are using the Jigsaw PSHE resources.

Does anyone have any thoughts/experience about these. It’s only really an overview so I can’t tell exactly how the LGBT+ stuff is taught.

For info, DS2 is autistic so he’s likely to take things very literally.

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Jobsagoodun1 · 02/10/2022 08:48

Our HT introduced Jigsaw with a message for parents which also mentioned ‘misunderstandings’ about PSHE.

I have heard of Jigsaw before on here, but all the official Jigsaw info to access online is so watered down it gives absolutely zero indication as to what children will be taught.

LondonQueen · 01/10/2022 21:52

I have taught using jigsaw, there is none of the "born in the wrong body" stuff and it is generally quite mild. I wouldn't worry too much.

OhHolyJesus · 01/10/2022 21:49

Thanks for confirming and apologies as I misunderstood.

I wouldn't be ok with our school using Jigsaw at all, even if they edited out the idealogical stuff. Does your school know about the way Jigsaw views children?

Anewuser · 01/10/2022 21:41

Thank you @SeagullSausage, I work in a primary school.

I’ll be honest, our PSHE lessons are very tame, generally about kindness and friendship. Whilst there’s a structure to the lesson, it’s more about letting the children share their opinions and feelings. I can’t imagine our class getting too heavy about LGBT+ and 20% of the class have ASD so we are aware how literal some children can be.

OhHolyJesus · 01/10/2022 19:25

Ah thanks @SeagullSausage - apologies if I misread this.

If anyone reading does work for Jigsaw (as I heard from the HT there is, as he was told, that there is a lot of misrepresentation of Jigsaw, maybe some of it is on MN?) I would like to know what explanation there is for Jigsaw's position.

SeagullSausage · 01/10/2022 19:00

@OhHolyJesus @Anewuser says they work at the school, not jigsaw from my reading ....

OhHolyJesus · 01/10/2022 18:57

@Anewuser

Great that you work at Jigsaw, maybe you can help.

Your resources were removed from our school as Jigsaw appear to believe that children are sexual beings, they believe in gender identity and the example Jigsaw used of Robert/Roberta Cowell is misogynistic and misleading.

"Developing sexuality” is a phrased used in the text aimed at 5-6 year olds in relationship education. Jigsaw say “This difference may be about this developing sexuality or gender identity”.

Is it jigsaw's belief and company policy that children in KS1 have a "sexuality" and a "gender identity"?

OP if you search of Jigsaw and PSHE and RSE you'll find several threads that provided me with resources that lead to the removal of Jigsaw at our school.

Robert/Roberta pretended to have a DSD condition, pretended not to be a father in order to receive the ‘gender affirmation surgery’ from a surgeon (who also considered themselves to be the opposite sex) and his ‘transition’ caused deep distress to his family.

Is Cowell a good example of 'diversity' and 'disability' and is this why Jigsaw use this example?

HHH3 · 01/10/2022 18:54

SuperlativeOxymoron · 01/10/2022 16:23

The school I'm at uses jigsaw too, last year I was in year 5 and we touched on sex and relationships, we didnt touch on lgbt+
Even in the anonymous questions bit, where the children are free to write post it's to ask the teacher and ta anything they wanted, none of them had questions, so it wasn't brought up.

Thanks. That’s good to know.

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HHH3 · 01/10/2022 18:54

Anewuser · 01/10/2022 17:00

@HHH3, I work there.

DS has just started Y5. Do you have any idea what the content is like for that year at all?

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Anewuser · 01/10/2022 17:00

@HHH3, I work there.

RoyalCorgi · 01/10/2022 16:36

Page 28 of the Safe Schools Alliance guide has info on Jigsaw:

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Parents-Guide-to-external-PSHE-RSE-providers.pdf

SuperlativeOxymoron · 01/10/2022 16:23

The school I'm at uses jigsaw too, last year I was in year 5 and we touched on sex and relationships, we didnt touch on lgbt+
Even in the anonymous questions bit, where the children are free to write post it's to ask the teacher and ta anything they wanted, none of them had questions, so it wasn't brought up.

HHH3 · 01/10/2022 16:19

@Jobsagoodun1 this is exactly how I feel. I wasn’t worried at all when DS1 did sec and relationships (he’s a lot older than DS2). Now I’m worried about what they’ll be saying about identity, born in the wrong body etc.

@Anewuser Do you work at the school or have a DC there?

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Anewuser · 01/10/2022 15:58

We do jigsaw at our primary. Year 4 have touched on sex education but we haven’t done anything specific to LGBT+.

Jobsagoodun1 · 01/10/2022 15:53

DC’s school will be using Jigsaw this year too.

I couldn’t find anything about anything specific. The info sent from the school was quite generic and the videos linked to the info was really generic too.

I understand why children need to attend age appropriate PSHE lessons, but I am now sadly sceptical about any group that wants to create resources that teach children about sex and relationships when so many seem to focus on identity politics.