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Allison Bailey Appeal

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BordoisAgain · 20/09/2022 09:15

She has just tweeted that she is appealing the decision to dismiss her claim against Stonewall in her recent case.

No news on if a garden is needed to be seeded though!

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chilling19 · 29/06/2023 14:02

OK she is annoying me already

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 29/06/2023 13:53

@Mumsnut hmm interesting I'm looking forward to seeing what happens

Mumsnut · 29/06/2023 13:52

The general rule in Employment Tribunals is that each side bears their own costs regardless of outcome, so for this hearing to be happening at all surely indicates that the panel recognises that there have been special circumstances?

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 29/06/2023 13:51

@Ameanstreakamilewide & @chilling19

Indeed I feel the same. If she said I'm buying a beach house in the Caribbean and will live there for a year whilst I work on my book I'd be totally fine with that.

Getting SW's testimony and records on record was already worth every penny from my point of view.

Mumsnut · 29/06/2023 13:50

Which rings a bell here

Mumsnut · 29/06/2023 13:49

Even if Allison is awarded her full costs, is ‘taxing’ a thing in employment tribunals? (Ie, when costs are gone through with a fine tooth comb after the award by an independent person, and anything judged to be excessive trimmed back. For example , if one party has paid a KC where a lower ranked barrister would have been adequate )

I was once awarded a punitive form of costs, where instead of being taxed down to about 70%, I got much nearer 100% because the reckless behaviour of the other side effectively made it impossible to budget or control costs properly

Ameanstreakamilewide · 29/06/2023 13:43

chilling19 · 29/06/2023 13:37

Howdoes - yes, I think the convention is that other crown funders are donated to. However, given the nightmare that Allison has been through, and a a regular donator to her fund, I wouldn't care if Allison pissed the lot up the wall while dancing on a progress flag.

I don't begrudge Allison a single penny either.

chilling19 · 29/06/2023 13:37

Tippingadvice · 29/06/2023 13:35

So Allison had to fund over £250k on top of the crowdfunding.

Plus the bundle was so awful it stressed unflappable Ben, let alone Allison, and impacted the advice he could give her.

GCC have behaved abominably throughout.

Waitwhat23 · 29/06/2023 13:35

Bundlejuice · 29/06/2023 12:38

You called?

Hah! Love it.

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 29/06/2023 13:24

@chilling19 Indeed if 100% of AB costs were crowdfunded it wouldn't mean GCC shouldn't pay (if payment was judged legally appropriate) it would then I imagine be down to AB to do something 'appropriate' with the money.

LGB Alliance managed 'fighting fund' for similar legal actions is perhaps one appropriate use.

chilling19 · 29/06/2023 13:19

Well done Ben - a very thorough outline of the mess and increased costs that resulted. Also a good point about the crowdfunding: Garden Court's argument that because the case was crowdfunded, they should not have to pay costs is ludicrous.

ImNotOnTwitterButMySupportGoldfinchTweets · 29/06/2023 13:17

I’ve not been following updates and missed that this was happening today. I could have logged in for the whole morning too. I quite miss EJ and Martin…

At least I have an excuse to bring back my Bungled B**e username 😁

Ameanstreakamilewide · 29/06/2023 13:16

Jesus Christ - Allison's total costs were well over £700k!

IcakethereforeIam · 29/06/2023 13:07

Bundlejuice · 29/06/2023 12:38

You called?

Better than Candyma'am!

ArabeIIaScott · 29/06/2023 12:56

Bundlejuice · 29/06/2023 12:38

You called?

😍

Bundlejuice · 29/06/2023 12:46

Hee hee hee.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 29/06/2023 12:43

Bundlejuice · 29/06/2023 12:38

You called?

Oh my god! 😂😂😂

SidewaysOtter · 29/06/2023 12:42

Bundlejuice · 29/06/2023 12:38

You called?

Bundlejuice · 29/06/2023 12:38

You called?

Ameanstreakamilewide · 29/06/2023 12:27

I would be feeling mighty foolish if i were Miss McGuigan right now.

chilling19 · 29/06/2023 12:18

Original sin 😂

Ameanstreakamilewide · 29/06/2023 12:14

Once upon a time, I used to put bundles together. Where was Bundledocs then?? 😩

chilling19 · 29/06/2023 12:10

Thank you - so to be clear, the application for costs is for the legal team as well as Allison? If so, did the crowdfunded for legal costs come up short?

Chrysanthemum5 · 29/06/2023 12:04

My understanding is that GCC gave Allisons team a bundle which was hard to work with then tried to change to a different bundle but I'm not sure Allisons team got it very quickly. Basically lots of arising about that increased costs and made it harder to put together their case

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