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Allison Bailey Appeal

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BordoisAgain · 20/09/2022 09:15

She has just tweeted that she is appealing the decision to dismiss her claim against Stonewall in her recent case.

No news on if a garden is needed to be seeded though!

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PicturesOfDogs · 20/09/2022 10:29

So if GCC have not appealed, what will their role be in an appeal?
Will they still need to be called as witnesses?

Or will it solely be SW?

NecessaryScene · 20/09/2022 10:27

I'm confused, I thought she had won on all the important points.

She did, so this is more about not wanting Stonewall to be let off the hook, I guess. Their defence was "whatever happened to Allison, whatever Garden Court did, it was nothing to do with us, cos Garden Court didn't have to listen to us".

And that worked. This is now appealing the logic. I imagine the basic grounds of this is the following in the Equality Act.

(3)A person (A) must not induce another (B) to do in relation to a third person (C) anything which is a basic contravention.

(4)For the purposes of subsection (3), inducement may be direct or indirect.

(5)Proceedings for a contravention of this section may be brought—
(a)by B, if B is subjected to a detriment as a result of A's conduct;
(b)by C, if C is subjected to a detriment as a result of A's conduct;
(c)by the Commission.

(6)For the purposes of subsection (5), it does not matter whether—
(a)the basic contravention occurs;
(b)any other proceedings are, or may be, brought in relation to A's conduct.

I don't recall how far they dug into that in the original tribunal.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/09/2022 10:19

No one claimed she had actually won against Stonewall just that the sunlight hasn't done them any favours. She won against Garden Court Chambers.

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ResisterRex · 20/09/2022 10:05

The tweets from AB:

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1572133035335716865

1/ BREAKING: I have appealed the decision of the ET dismissing my claim against Stonewall for causing a basic contravention of the Equality Act 2010. The appeal has been lodged at the EAT within the deadline. It will almost certainly be heard in the new year.

2/ The EAT will be asked to order that my claim against Stonewall succeeds. Garden Court Chambers have not appealed. The ET’s decision against them for discrimination & victimisation & the award of damages & aggravated damages stands.

3/ The ET’s findings that gender critical belief includes the belief that “gender identity theory as proselytised by Stonewall is severely detrimental” to women, and lesbians, is unchallenged and also stands. Stonewall is not off the hook. Far from it. ENDS

IcakethereforeIam · 20/09/2022 09:33

Well, Stonewall's first bout was hilarious. If they're actually going to appear in Court this time, I hope they have a venue large enough for the support menagerie.

pattihews · 20/09/2022 09:33

I can see why she'd want to appeal. If it can be done relatively cheaply... That last garden was massive!

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 20/09/2022 09:28

My heart dropped when I saw this title, I thought GCC were going to appeal!

Good luck to Allison, I presume the GCC bit is done and dusted so there’s no need for that circus to return to town?

If it’s just the Stonewall witnesses I can see it being worth it. It won’t be so epically long and expensive for one thing!
And there was a clear attempt to influence GCC in an unlawful way. What was their defence anyway,
doesn’t it boil down to “we have no power or influence and also we are completely inept, why would GCC have listened to us?” I think there’s some value making them give that another airing.

Signalbox · 20/09/2022 09:27

Oh wow wasn’t expecting that. I wonder on what grounds.

PicturesOfDogs · 20/09/2022 09:20

Hmm, not sure about this, but also think it’s good to have things settled in court of appeal due to its ability to set precedent.

BordoisAgain · 20/09/2022 09:18

Tried to link to twitter but it didn't work 😕

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RoyalCorgi · 20/09/2022 09:18

I'm not sure that's wise. Good luck to her, but it will be another long haul with no guarantee of a favourable outcome.

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