Russell T Davies loses the plot

Anyone who disagrees with Russell's speech should watch It's a Sin and realise they are just as bad as the bad characters in it who believed 'it' was a sin.

The founders of LGBA are lesbian/gay people. Some were involved with Stonewall. Should watch It's A Sin? They fucking lived it, and they were fighting Section 28 and for equal rights when the majority of their most vocal blue-haired critics were still having their arses wiped by their mothers (if they were even born)

But sure, those lesbians and gays are just as bad as the homophobes that abused them 🙄

Russell T Davies in a coming out in support of LGBT rights shocker
Wouldn't have expected anything else, not sure why anyone would be surprised.
Good on him for speaking up

He is a dic

Totally agree. I don't get the RTD pash.

I rolled my eyes at the "it's your fault" line in IAS.

Oh, fuck off, it's always the mother's fault. How perfectly hack.

Man who lives in a world where women are 'bit parts' tells women their place shocker.

Sadly I'm disappointed, but not that surprised. There was a transhumanism plotline in Years and Years that looked like it was going to be a more questioning take on a teenage girl's trangender identification. The family's daughter became withdrawn from her parents, obsessed with transhumanism, and together with another teenage friend goes seeking surgery which leaves the friend blind. But then the daughter gets supported by her family, gets 'proper' transhuman surgery and her amazing body modification saves the day. And then there was It's a Sin, with, as already noted here, the young woman as emotional support human and all the blame for everything being heaped on the 2020s favourite hate figure, the middle aged woman.

I find these kinds of "arguments" so tedious these days. Anyone who disagrees with me is a bad bad person, just as bad as some other definitely bad person. It's like debating with a toddler

Yup

So anyone who thinks that its fine for lgb people to have a specific charity is a bad bad person 😩

I don’t think so…

He was very emotional, it seems like he said more than he had intended to.

I don't know that I think It's a Sin was his best work, maybe because he was so emotionally attached to it - sometimes that makes it much more difficult to write truthfully about a topic, in the sense that a story really has to be able to see things from many perspectives to work, or it tends to come across as polemic or a didactic exercise. It could explain the flat female characters.

But he's clearly out of his depth on this topic, I suspect he couldn't give even a very basic run-down of why people are concerned.

yawn
do we have to explain this again?
yes, It's a Sin was great, and an accurate account of the time (including the sacrifices made by women)
loads of us feminists supported the struggles of LGB people- and what they were demanding was simply to have the same respect and rights as everyone else. No L/G/B people were asking for anything that impacted anyone else's rights.
Whereas now, we have people wanting to undermine the very basis of LGB identities and rights by saying sexuality and attraction resides in gender not sex. Really, RTD, plenty of other gay men get this, why can't you?

Now I'm older and looking for similar support from gay men who recognise what lesbians are up against and I see that yet again it's entitled men expecting women to come to their aid and foolish foolish women doing as expected.

Russell T Davies is just another privileged white middle aged gay man who doesn't give a shit about women.

I thought It's A Sin was powerful and brilliant and also absolutely suggested RTD only sees women as support humans. Im glad it won something and at the same time I'm not even slightly surprised by his politics in this regard.

Ha, you're killing me Russell, I'm fucking dying of second hand embarrassment over here.

[quote HowardNoir]@AssassinatedBeauty I just shared my opinion, that's what we do on mumsnet. Sorry you're wrong :)[/quote]

As I said, toddler-level thought processes. We are all sharing our opinions. Some opinions are more valid and reasoned than others.

I also assume he was ‘tired & emotional’

As Ed Byrne said of Alanis Morrisette - the only ironic thing here is that you don't know what irony is.

It’s a sin was bloody brilliant

But I would say that the hateful org here is stonewall and it’s replacement of same sex attraction with same gender thereby redefining homosexuality

Russell knows damn well what a man is because he’s same sex attracted

He's saying the more letters the merrier, and if someone wants to be included then why be a bigot by excluding them.

I'll give him 3 letters: P and I and E.

Yes. Bad bad people, just like the other bad people because I can't actually substantiate why you are bad in particular but you must be bad like the other bad people.

Wait... He chose to single out the LGB Alliance in his award acceptance speech (why??) and THAT was the best argument he could come up with??

An incomprehensible extended bad joke that included the assertion that people who exclude the T are ugly and lazy, and which came across uncomfortably like an offensive parody of a deaf person. And ended with that bonkers, illogical, nonsense hyperbole about killing.

None of it made the slightest bit of sense. What an absolute fool.

The end of It's a Sin showed us conclusively what a fucking massive misogynist bellend Russell is (it's the mum's fault all the kids died of AIDS apparently).

So I won't be listening to any words he expels from his arse on any subject or in any capacity any more.

Well the substance of his argument seems to be about the length of words.

I find these kinds of "arguments" so tedious these days. Anyone who disagrees with me is a bad bad person, just as bad as some other definitely bad person. It's like debating with a toddler.

Excellent. 'It's a Sin' was amazing, and I'm glad he's aknowledging that harmful ideas against LGBTQ+ people are still around. Anyone who disagrees with Russell's speech should watch It's a Sin and realise they are just as bad as the bad characters in it who believed 'it' was a sin. Oh the irony of people not understanding that.

Depressing that he chose that moment to attack other gay and lesbian people, rather than accepting some of them have different opinions. I presume he showed lots of trans people caring for the sick and dying in “It’s a Sin”? That would reflect the new reality he’s embracing presumably.