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Mridul Wadhwa

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PostingForTheFirstTime · 21/09/2021 11:13

thecritic.co.uk/unclean/

"Feminist women were, therefore, keen to hear what would be said at this latest talk before women’s sector professionals working with victims and survivors of sexual and domestic abuse.

I hadn’t expected the content to be so blatantly aggressive towards the decades of work of feminist women in the field of male violence against women. After a wandering preamble about intersectionality, Wadhwa announced that Rape Crisis history was unclean."

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Grellbunt · 21/09/2021 20:31

I had wondered about that too.

Charley50 · 21/09/2021 20:30

@HPFA

Honestly, Mridul being trans is almost beginning to seem irrelevant.

Anyone displaying such a complete lack of empathy for rape victims is obviously unsuitable for a position heading up a rape charity. That's what the trustees should be focussing on.

I agree. But he seems to be untouchable. (A pun in there somewhere, but it's all so unfunny).
CharlieParley · 21/09/2021 20:27

@HPFA

Honestly, Mridul being trans is almost beginning to seem irrelevant.

Anyone displaying such a complete lack of empathy for rape victims is obviously unsuitable for a position heading up a rape charity. That's what the trustees should be focussing on.

I completely agree.
HPFA · 21/09/2021 20:25

Honestly, Mridul being trans is almost beginning to seem irrelevant.

Anyone displaying such a complete lack of empathy for rape victims is obviously unsuitable for a position heading up a rape charity. That's what the trustees should be focussing on.

CharlieParley · 21/09/2021 19:56

He supposedly used deception only once: at the Forth Valley Rape Crisis Centre. The Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre knew exactly who they were getting.

MW accepted a national Scottish award and gave a speech about being trans in 2015, two years before being hired at Forth Valley.

Rape Crisis Scotland first employed MW in 2012 and they knew who they were employing from day 1.

We really need to get away from this claim that MW duped anyone at Rape Crisis. It didn't happen.

If anyone was ever duped (and I've explained elsewhere why that is unlikely) it was Shakti Women's Aid in 2005. But as MW's sex was much more obvious then and the job had nothing to do with survivors, it's as I said unlikely.

MW however loves that so many women believe that MW passes so well that deception of this kind would have been possible. Does the concept of "narcissistic supply" apply to this situation?

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 21/09/2021 19:12

@CharlieParley

This is also someone who grew up with enormous privilege - not merely male, but from a wealthy family. In that first acceptance speech for the LGBT Award in 2015, MW speaks of the family diamonds (jokingly, but the joke isn't about the family diamonds). Attended private school in India, then university there, then came to the UK to study (that's serious money to pay for fees for may years), then worked here for a while, returned to India, transitioned privately (again, serious money needed), talks about parents pressuring local magistrates to get a female passport etc.

MW likes to talk about being a migrant BAME woman, which gives the impression of someone living in poverty all their lives. Nothing could be further from the truth.

he's an oppression tourist?

nice

PaleGreenGhost · 21/09/2021 18:14

MW reminds me of Trump. Entitled male, getting away with disgusting behaviour. The issue with both are the systems and the supporters that give these males such power.

The cleanse comment is beyond insensitive. Women frequently report feeling unclean long after their rape. We already live in a society where there is seemingly more shame in being raped than in being a rapist. TRAs like MW seem to want to make raped women feel further shame for needing to have single sex spaces. Rather than focusing their efforts on stopping their fellow males raping so that one day single sex spaces won't be so necessary. It is sick.

Grellbunt · 21/09/2021 17:35

@toomanytrees

If any other person in any organisation, had deliberately used deception to get a job, then boasted about it several times publicly, they would be instantly dismissed and marched off the premises.

He supposedly used deception only once: at the Forth Valley Rape Crisis Centre. The Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre knew exactly who they were getting. The responsibility lies with the members of the boards of directors who hired him. The reality is that two groups of women (the boards) at two different organizations hired him. The current ERCC board seems unwilling or unable to deal with it. The real question is why. This issue is much bigger than MW.

Yes. And it's disappointing to see a friend of the FM apparently receiving preferential treatment. It smacks of... well. I think we all know.
toomanytrees · 21/09/2021 17:11

If any other person in any organisation, had deliberately used deception to get a job, then boasted about it several times publicly, they would be instantly dismissed and marched off the premises.

He supposedly used deception only once: at the Forth Valley Rape Crisis Centre. The Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre knew exactly who they were getting. The responsibility lies with the members of the boards of directors who hired him. The reality is that two groups of women (the boards) at two different organizations hired him. The current ERCC board seems unwilling or unable to deal with it. The real question is why. This issue is much bigger than MW.

Grellbunt · 21/09/2021 17:02

@CharlieParley

This is also someone who grew up with enormous privilege - not merely male, but from a wealthy family. In that first acceptance speech for the LGBT Award in 2015, MW speaks of the family diamonds (jokingly, but the joke isn't about the family diamonds). Attended private school in India, then university there, then came to the UK to study (that's serious money to pay for fees for may years), then worked here for a while, returned to India, transitioned privately (again, serious money needed), talks about parents pressuring local magistrates to get a female passport etc.

MW likes to talk about being a migrant BAME woman, which gives the impression of someone living in poverty all their lives. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Exactly
CharlieParley · 21/09/2021 16:59

This is also someone who grew up with enormous privilege - not merely male, but from a wealthy family. In that first acceptance speech for the LGBT Award in 2015, MW speaks of the family diamonds (jokingly, but the joke isn't about the family diamonds). Attended private school in India, then university there, then came to the UK to study (that's serious money to pay for fees for may years), then worked here for a while, returned to India, transitioned privately (again, serious money needed), talks about parents pressuring local magistrates to get a female passport etc.

MW likes to talk about being a migrant BAME woman, which gives the impression of someone living in poverty all their lives. Nothing could be further from the truth.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 21/09/2021 16:40

This meeting was held in Sheffield, wasn't it? Does this mean that RCC in England are up for following the Scottish model?

Grellbunt · 21/09/2021 16:23

You need to get the Sunday Post involved.

Anotheruser02 · 21/09/2021 16:17

@ludothedog

What can we do about MW? No point writing to my MSP. She is SNP and completely enthralled. Doesn't even reply to concerns.

We all know where our glorious leader stands on the subject of MW, they are great friends and women's concerns are not valid. Fuck, I'm going to have to vote conservative next time.

What about other actions? I'm ready to go marching in the bloody streets about this disgrace of a human being. I mean, if you have no empathy for victims of rape..... wtaf

Me too. I keep thinking with all of the sunlight and more people peaking something big will happen.
andyoldlabour · 21/09/2021 15:47

If any other person in any organisation, had deliberately used deception to get a job, then boasted about it several times publicly, they would be instantly dismissed and marched off the premises.

Jaysmith71 · 21/09/2021 15:45

The Scottish Conservatives were thinking about changing their name a while back to disociate themselves from Westminster, Thatcher et al. In the last Holyrood poll, they were mostly known as "Ruth Davidson."

Scottish Unionists?

(They are officially The Conservative and Unionist Party.)

ludothedog · 21/09/2021 15:32

What can we do about MW? No point writing to my MSP. She is SNP and completely enthralled. Doesn't even reply to concerns.

We all know where our glorious leader stands on the subject of MW, they are great friends and women's concerns are not valid. Fuck, I'm going to have to vote conservative next time.

What about other actions? I'm ready to go marching in the bloody streets about this disgrace of a human being. I mean, if you have no empathy for victims of rape..... wtaf

terryleather · 21/09/2021 15:30

@Grellbunt

I am sickened at what is happening in Scotland. This is a country that, sadly, is still full of toxic masculinity, sexism and real vicious bigotry and hatred - but the Scottish Govt is in some kind of fantasy la la land where this is our biggest issue.
Those problems and others such as drug and alcohol addiction and poor mental health are deeply entrenched and incredibly difficult to tackle without huge amounts of time, money and resources.

Any headway made would probably take years to come to fruition.

That's no use to politicians who want quick cheap fixes or failing that a glittery rainbow smokescreen that makes them look good and costs next to nothing to implement and gives your halo an extra glow too...that's if you don't count the cost to women and girls and who cares about those privileged whiners anyway?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, with some notable exceptions the Scottish Government are an out and out fucking disgrace.

Jaysmith71 · 21/09/2021 15:21

Can't leave this out:

Grellbunt · 21/09/2021 15:19

Doesn't suprise me at all.

Anyway back to MW.

Fariha31 · 21/09/2021 15:18

@Grellbunt

The very fact that Trainspotting (private schoolboy in lead role playing working class lad anyone?) is so feted, rather than being seen as a damning indictment of the mess some communities are in, is proof of the state of denial that Scotland's chattering classes are in.
We need a like button, and quick.
Jaysmith71 · 21/09/2021 15:17

@Grellbunt

The very fact that Trainspotting (private schoolboy in lead role playing working class lad anyone?) is so feted, rather than being seen as a damning indictment of the mess some communities are in, is proof of the state of denial that Scotland's chattering classes are in.
In fact, most of that notorious line was nicked from Gregory's Girl, impeccably proletarian production, raided by John Hodge and Andrew MacDonald, a pair of poshies.
allmywhat · 21/09/2021 15:13

Can't help seeing the religious dimension to all this talk of cleaning and purifying

...of rape victims.

Yes. And it casts a new and even creepier light on Wadhwa's interest in the topic of rape victims having orgasms during rape.

Well, agents of the patriarchy have always tried to blame and gaslight rape victims. And in particular, representatives of patriarchal religions have treated the victims of rape as unclean while ignoring or condoning the perpetrators. What was that line Graham Linehan used? Meet the new priests, same as the old prriests.

Grellbunt · 21/09/2021 15:12

The very fact that Trainspotting (private schoolboy in lead role playing working class lad anyone?) is so feted, rather than being seen as a damning indictment of the mess some communities are in, is proof of the state of denial that Scotland's chattering classes are in.

KittenKong · 21/09/2021 14:58

All men then?