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Mridul Wadhwa

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PostingForTheFirstTime · 21/09/2021 11:13

thecritic.co.uk/unclean/

"Feminist women were, therefore, keen to hear what would be said at this latest talk before women’s sector professionals working with victims and survivors of sexual and domestic abuse.

I hadn’t expected the content to be so blatantly aggressive towards the decades of work of feminist women in the field of male violence against women. After a wandering preamble about intersectionality, Wadhwa announced that Rape Crisis history was unclean."

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StealthSpinach · 13/09/2024 07:32

unmemorableusername · 13/09/2024 06:36

If only they'd listened back in 2021!

It’s interesting to see the same name(s) putting their case forward still. In some instances the quality and substance hasn’t progressed at all in the last few years.

unmemorableusername · 13/09/2024 06:36

If only they'd listened back in 2021!

FrancescaContini · 27/01/2023 01:46

@Congressdingo @TheWeeDonkey Couldn’t agree with you both more. There will certainly be an INQUIRY so we (we?) can LEARN LESSONS from this. Christ knows how much that will cost, how much time will be spent by male politicians and “experts” waffling on in committee rooms for the conclusions to be drawn that many wise women drew, and have been trying to draw attention to, years ago 🧐🤬

GreenFritillary · 26/01/2023 13:13

With hindsight, I would like to have said 'That's a game I'm not interested in playing.'

oldwomanwhoruns · 26/09/2021 09:44

Sorry I missed your post, @NiceGerbil

Congressdingo · 26/09/2021 09:15

@TheWeeDonkey

Institutions never seem to learn anything, this is what makes me so angry.

And, as someone else said either up thread or on another thread, MW is hiding in plain sight.

This could have been said about any high level abuser from Saville to Bill Cosby to what happened in the Catholic Church, grooming gangs, county lines etc etc etc.

They tell you who they are, they flaunt who they are and every time we hear "lessons will be learned", but who learns the lessons? The next predator / abuser learns how the previous one got caught and how to refine their game, and victims and survivors learn that they're expendable, and the cycle keeps turning and new victims are created and it fucking kills me because the people in power just don't care because what do they lose? Nothing.

I've been saying similar for decades now. Even the 'lessons will be learned' seems like a sop to the public. I've been hearing that trope and wondering why actual lessons are never learned.

Pretty much every bad thing that made the news headlines and people were appalled, few months or a year later a similar thing happens (baby Peter comes to mind)

However, you have put it better than I've been ranting about it irl.

Leafstamp · 25/09/2021 20:29

@Jaysmith71

Can't help seeing the religious dimension to all this talk of cleaning and purifying, particularly in a Hindu context.
Indeed. For anyone not aware, MW’s father is/was Hindu and Hinduism is not known for its women’s rights (happy to be corrected on that).

Seeing as MW was a boy, presumably looking to his father as a role model, this all fits.

SpringCrocus · 24/09/2021 23:45

Hmm. Yes. Caste.

CharlieParley · 24/09/2021 23:13

Doesn't it just? I couldn't help thinking about that either.

Jaysmith71 · 24/09/2021 18:07

it's the newest religion in town.

and Wadhwa's heirarchy of deservingness has more than a whiff of caste about it.

WhatMattersMost · 24/09/2021 18:04

@Jaysmith71

Can't help seeing the religious dimension to all this talk of cleaning and purifying, particularly in a Hindu context.
The whole thing is a "religious" movement - it's the newest religion in town.
PaleGreenGhost · 24/09/2021 07:00

Oh that's interesting. I've been wondering if/when the deletions would start on this thread.

I'd actually thought that MN were allowing us to talk because MW has so clearly said such vile, damaging, misogynist things about the women they purport to help.

Deliriumoftheendless · 24/09/2021 06:54

They tell you who they are, they flaunt who they are and every time we hear "lessons will be learned", but who learns the lessons? The next predator / abuser learns how the previous one got caught and how to refine their game, and victims and survivors learn that they're expendable, and the cycle keeps turning and new victims are created and it fucking kills me because the people in power just don't care because what do they lose? Nothing.
This is absolutely it. I’d never actually thought about it but it’s blindingly obvious.

This needs staying every time that phrase is used.

Leafstamp · 24/09/2021 06:44

@NiceGerbil

Oh that's VERY interesting.

My deleted post was one where I asked the big question WHY did ERC hire mw. And I listed out the things they knew would be a consequence. Many of them either unrelated to supporting rape victims and/ or actively undermining their own remit.

Why would that be deleted?

Why indeed. And who reported it and what did they give as their reason? What was their motive?

Hmmm.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 24/09/2021 00:37

@TheWeeDonkey

Institutions never seem to learn anything, this is what makes me so angry.

And, as someone else said either up thread or on another thread, MW is hiding in plain sight.

This could have been said about any high level abuser from Saville to Bill Cosby to what happened in the Catholic Church, grooming gangs, county lines etc etc etc.

They tell you who they are, they flaunt who they are and every time we hear "lessons will be learned", but who learns the lessons? The next predator / abuser learns how the previous one got caught and how to refine their game, and victims and survivors learn that they're expendable, and the cycle keeps turning and new victims are created and it fucking kills me because the people in power just don't care because what do they lose? Nothing.

This is something worth reading twice.

It is spot on.

TheWeeDonkey · 23/09/2021 19:26

Institutions never seem to learn anything, this is what makes me so angry.

And, as someone else said either up thread or on another thread, MW is hiding in plain sight.

This could have been said about any high level abuser from Saville to Bill Cosby to what happened in the Catholic Church, grooming gangs, county lines etc etc etc.

They tell you who they are, they flaunt who they are and every time we hear "lessons will be learned", but who learns the lessons? The next predator / abuser learns how the previous one got caught and how to refine their game, and victims and survivors learn that they're expendable, and the cycle keeps turning and new victims are created and it fucking kills me because the people in power just don't care because what do they lose? Nothing.

SpringCrocus · 23/09/2021 19:08

How the hell did it come to this? 😡 How did institutional capture on this scale go SO unnoticed?
(rhetorical question, I DO know about Dentons etc, but I'm, even now, gobsmacked that TRAs have managed to do this)

toomanytrees · 23/09/2021 18:12

It seems there were already trojan horses who changed the objectives of the charity to no longer centre women. There don't appear to be any consequences or recourse as long as the objectives remain charitable.

Grellbunt · 23/09/2021 14:41

Trojan Horse til you're in...

Orgasmagorical · 23/09/2021 09:10

@Grellbunt

You couldn't really get in if they didn't want you there
You could pretend to be something you're not, that seems to go down well.
Grellbunt · 22/09/2021 22:34

You couldn't really get in if they didn't want you there

Grellbunt · 22/09/2021 22:33

Normally you are invited, or more likely nowadays they advertise and people apply in the normal way - these posts can be good for the CV as a stepping stone / building connections and experience for the public sector gravy train.

Grellbunt · 22/09/2021 22:31

Forgive me - I didn't really mean it literally. I am sure there are many dedicated frontline staff. It's just that it seems to be being used as a political tool...

toomanytrees · 22/09/2021 21:32

Thanks CharlieParley I appreciate the clarification.

Does anyone know how one becomes a member of the board of directors?

NiceGerbil · 22/09/2021 21:15

Oh that's VERY interesting.

My deleted post was one where I asked the big question WHY did ERC hire mw. And I listed out the things they knew would be a consequence. Many of them either unrelated to supporting rape victims and/ or actively undermining their own remit.

Why would that be deleted?