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Langrycleg · 2021-02-03T17:46:30+00:00

After the demise of no 4 thread, does anyone think it’s worth reviving or should we rephrase the question? 96%- 4% at the end I think.

Idratherberude · 04/02/2021 13:36

96%! Well done to all who contributed.
Did that frequent poster change her stance?

JoodyBlue · 04/02/2021 13:32

@TalkingtoLangClegintheDark

So Stonewall et al have the ear of the government and countless public institutions and are actually paid to disseminate their misinformation in workplaces, schools and universities - with all their misrepresentations of the law and of statistics - and we, who have no funding at all, and are really struggling to make ourselves heard, even have threads deleted in AIBU, which is one of the very few ways we have of bringing this whole issue to the attention of women who simply have no idea what is going on.

It’s so imbalanced it’s ludicrous.

that is the case isn't it? flip me..... but then I guess women's rights have always been David and Goliath fights. I was labouring under the assumption that women had got somewhere. Backlash has come. I really didn't think it would take this form. Using women's "kindness" against us. Genius really.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/02/2021 12:26

Its NBU to post these threads in AIBU, they are often issues which revolve around the question of who is being U.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/02/2021 12:25

Cakehole. Breadgrave. Sconecasket.

I give up.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 04/02/2021 12:25

@IWillSqueakAgain

I never expected it wouldn’t be like this.

I didn’t anticipate the trans part. But I never had any illusion women had rights or that I was safe. Men rail roading us again and again seems standard to me.

I don’t think I have a point I’m afraid (too tired sorry) but I just don’t find this surprising and I think I find it surprising how many women are so shocked at this.

But once it’s seen it can’t be unseen. And that’s something at least.

You were more tuned in than I was. I had never really grasped how precarious and fragile our rights were, although now I think about how very, very recent they are in the context of human history, it kind of makes more sense.

You’re right about once seen, can’t be unseen.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 04/02/2021 12:20

So Stonewall et al have the ear of the government and countless public institutions and are actually paid to disseminate their misinformation in workplaces, schools and universities - with all their misrepresentations of the law and of statistics - and we, who have no funding at all, and are really struggling to make ourselves heard, even have threads deleted in AIBU, which is one of the very few ways we have of bringing this whole issue to the attention of women who simply have no idea what is going on.

It’s so imbalanced it’s ludicrous.

gardenbird48 · 04/02/2021 12:10

@JoodyBlue

Also perhaps we could keep an eye on Glinner's thread there. There was just a snidey post in his direction.

Yes I’ve seen a couple of posters who have an issue with glinner- they haven’t bothered to answer the question

JoodyBlue · 04/02/2021 11:49

Also perhaps we could keep an eye on Glinner's thread there. There was just a snidey post in his direction.

JoodyBlue · 04/02/2021 11:49

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4153051-That-women-should-not-be-banned-from-Social-Media-for-asking-the-question-Thread-4

JoodyBlue · 04/02/2021 11:48

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4150786-AIBU-to-think-women-should-not-be-banned-from-Social-media-for-asking-the-question-Thread-3

JoodyBlue · 04/02/2021 11:47

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4148800-AIBU-to-think-women-should-not-be-banned-from-Social-media-for-asking-the-question-Thread-2

JoodyBlue · 04/02/2021 11:46

Here's thread one www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4148030-AIBU-to-think-women-should-not-be-banned-from-Social-media-for-asking-the-question

ArabellaScott · 04/02/2021 11:39

There was an article recently - a crowdfunder for a young transman - posted in here. Said transman had been threatened in a male toilet so reverted to using women's toilets.

prisencolinensinainciusol2 · 04/02/2021 11:32

I’m still waiting for actual evidence that transwomen are in any more danger in men’s single sex facilities than any other vulnerable male group like teenagers or small slight men.

I'd also be interested in any stats/stories about transmen in men's single sex facilities.

Whatwouldscullydo · 04/02/2021 11:30

I'll take a pm.with the place please

ArabellaScott · 04/02/2021 11:22

Cakehole. Breadgrave. Sconecasket.

I give up.

ArabellaScott · 04/02/2021 11:21

Sorry, I've so little time right now to help out with posting, but well done and thanks to all putting in so much effort on the AIBU posts. It really is worth it, I think. And the more flak they attract the more useful, as we can then discuss points and I think the discussions are often very illuminating, so great to get lots of alternative viewpoints and posters on board discussing, too.

Winesalot · 04/02/2021 10:59

PM'd you Joody

JoodyBlue · 04/02/2021 10:51

@Wines I've never heard that one before - where?

Winesalot · 04/02/2021 10:12

A place where baked goods are buried.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/02/2021 10:09

Where did Michael post?

Winesalot · 04/02/2021 10:07

Ahhh!! Michael of mumsnet posted that that poster was a troll and is now banned.

For five threads they trolled!

And kept us giving great information for readers.

gardenbird48 · 04/02/2021 10:04

One regular poster has been asking for evidence. And does keep implying that it never happens. It is just feminists making up stories.

I’m still waiting for actual evidence that transwomen are in any more danger in men’s single sex facilities than any other vulnerable male group like teenagers or small slight men.

Interestingly literally none has been forthcoming (unless you count that self selected survey from somewhere in America 6 years ago). Surely with all of the activists resources they can come up with some actual evidence of danger? Like the sort we keep producing?
As opposed to some surveys saying that certain people feel unsafe for unspecified reasons which may include teenage girls ‘looking at them funny’. EIzz.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 04/02/2021 10:00

Also the judge's statement in the Maya case that believing in two fixed sexes wasn't worthy of respect in dignified society

This still shocks me every time I read it.

I got to about 3am before I went to bed. The joys of insomnia.

The posters trying to derail couldn't even give a coherent definition of trans, so how can you legally protect something so obscure it can change on a daily basis?

gardenbird48 · 04/02/2021 09:40

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4155524-AIBU-to-think-that-women-should-be-able-to-request-same-sex-provision?pg=5

Hers the latest one - shame I missed last night’s one have we got any way of accessing the posters with useful links?