This isn't true, is it?

Another theatre worker here. Provision is
male - 3 urinals, 1 cubicle
female - 4 cubicles

men’s smells more
women’s dirtier

I was very confused there and then realised it was a zombie thread.

I raised this under this name back then. (I post regularly under my main name)

Unsurprisingly the man that suggested it did need to have his hard drive checked.

Man here. I’ve never been in a stinky men’s toilet for years I rather thought they were a thing of the past. My local pubs, gym, restaurants and any motorway services always have been clean and odourless. I don’t frequent nightclubs of pubs with lots of drunks and drugs though (Too old!)

That’s disgusting, but I’m inclined to think it supports the argument for more women’s toilets.

I used to work in a pub. I'll never forget going into the ladies to collect glasses only to discover a poo in the sink. Unwilling to wait for a stall, they'd hoisted themselves up and relieved themselves. Utterly grim. Agree with the men's urinals reeking too. Drunk men who can't aim straight never helped.

I've never found women's toilets that disgusting, apart from a public loo once in a small village in Scotland at New Year, where someone had literally ripped the toilet cistern off the wall and there was water and who knows what everywhere.

Mens' toilets absolutely stink because they piss everywhere.

We need our own spaces.

And they should be fit for purpose. Twice as many of them, bigger inside, with proper disposal facilities.

A couple with a sink inside, would be great, too. For those times when you need a bloody sink.

Postnatal horror story.

On a ward of four mothers recovering from surgery, visitors were not, for fairly obvious reasons, allowed to use the patients' toilet. I remember dragging my self to the loo after visiting hour, my neighbour had had about a dozen family members in visiting, one of whom was an older male who had gone ahead and used the toilet, ignoring the signs. Maybe he was self identifying before it was fashionable.

Anyway, he'd pissed all over the seat, it stank, there was pubic hair. Having just had major abdominal surgery, it's hard to explain how painful (literally and metaphorically) it was, having to wipe up this man's piss so I could sit down, and bleed/weep in peace.

We need our own spaces.

Men's toilets stink. Maybe he's talking about the blood in menstrual products he probably comes across as he's emptying bins.

I might as well chime in.

I’ve cleaned the loos in a theatre. Neither men’s nor women’s were especially bad most of the time. The men’s were a bit smellier, the women’s were messier (lots of small bits of tissue all over the place).

Women's toilets are rank compared to men's. For some reason women smear poo and mensural blood on cubical walls, leave dirty pads stuck to things and other such atrocities. The men just have stinky wee.

In my experience office toilets for either sex where I work are usually clean. (I’m included in Health & Safety inspections so see both).

Office and pub toilets are very different, not least because the users of the latter are pissed, and usually desperate by the time they get to the loo. Men’s toilets will be knee deep in piss.

In my experience the women's are messier i.e. Tissue and other 'litter' easily picked up.
The men's are dirtier i.e. Poo smeared on the walls and pee everywhere.

Well if we are going for anecdotes equaling data I might as well stick my oar in too.

I have cleaned as a job and in my experience the women's toilets were nowhere near as bad as the men's. I have many examples but I don't want to gross myself out never mind anyone else.

Datun a woman (never found out who) regularly left a used tampon on the windowsill above the sanitary bin.

Not unusual to find blood on the seats - this was a place with a massive loo roll dispenser that was checked hourly.
Full nappies left by the side of the hand basin or on the floor despite clearly marked bins.

All in a 'naice' area of fee paying schools, skiing holidays and expensive homes.

I had the 'pleasure' of using the women's mixed-sex toilets at the Hammersmith Lyric recently, and the man who barged past me into the toilets commented "This is a good idea. I prefer the women's toilets - the men's always stink."

I regularly visited a building of medical consulting rooms. The patient/visitor toilet was also used by the consultants.

It was always clean, except one day when a man came out and vanished into the consulting room at the back, gave me a shifty look as he passed. I soon discovered the reason for the shifty look, he had pissed all over the seat and not flushed. He worked there.

Majority against which is heartening at least.

Some replies edited the best I can if anyone wants to read all the replies it's on the northern echo FB.

Saw this in my local paper my granny gets people aren't happy.

Good point Babdoc.

Add in poor plumbing / water pressure and it's no wonder toilets are often left unflushed.

I think the reason you often find women’s loos unflushed is the length of the queue. The cistern will be empty from the woman who’s just come out before you, and you don’t want to wait ages for the cistern to refill, when you’re holding up twenty desperate women in a line outside.

Totally agree that women need more toilets, not to be made to share!

Anecdotally; in my experience, men's and unisex toilets are much dirtier and generally grimmer than women's. Yes I know men deserve their single sex spaces but I have been known to dip into the men's when they are empty and there is a massive queue for the women's.

Also at work we have separate staff and student toilets. Staff toilets are unisex (for convenience; there just aren't as many staff so two cubicles each with a sink).
I am 100% happier to share space with female students than male staff. the staff toilets are boak.

Isn't it women use the loos more often though?

Men can just quickly go behind a bush/tree whatever.
Women have to deal with incontinence, periods, etc all in the toilet cubicle.

The amount of times I've been places where the ladies queue is massive but there's no queue in the men's.

We need more women's loos. Equality.