Radio 5 Live interview with Aimee Challenor

Damage limitation and reinvention.

It won't last. Everything is out there. It will only take one live call to make the entire narrative implode.

I mean seriously, if this is the best that Stonewall and the trans lobby can manage, it says much about the depth of their talent.

Aimee Challenor has had an unusual amount of supportive opportunities provided by the BBC.

It's odd. I complained about some languaged used on the original BBC article about DC. I never mentioned AC, that wasn't my concern, but the response was all about AC.

I think it has more to do with AC connections with stonewall than anything else. If stonewall are seen to be at fault, it causes big problems with organisations that use stonewall.

Its worth complaining to BBC 5 Live.

current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3482982-BBC-complaints

Bold fail is text from Stonewall website.

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Was AC asked whether they felt they should remain on the Stonewall trans group which contributes to
Stonewall is now running a series of exciting residential campaigning programmes for young people aged 16 to 25 who are from specific diversity strands under the LGBTQ+ umbrella. Our first programme (which will be facilitated by Stonewall staff who identify as trans)..., in the light of their lack of understanding of safeguarding?

Aimee Challenor has had an unusual amount of supportive opportunities provided by the BBC.

thread running:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3296433-BBC-Bias-Collecting-Examples-here

And at the same time on R4 we had the brilliant Jessica Eaton talking about child abuse and the tendency to victim blame and how this needs to change.

It is bizarrely grim that AC gets a platform anywhere, let alone on national radio, positioning 'themself' as being too fragile to challenge.

There was really no need to interview AC.

They should be interviewing the green party and the lib Dems. And perhaps looking to see if any other parties and organisations are open to similar threats.

AC themselves is marketing themselves as some sort of clueless idiot, and the report did say that they are unable to comprehend safeguarding.

The real question is why are organisations promoting unfit people into positions of responsibility.

Why have the BBC had AC on? The story barely made the papers, and the BBC really dragged their feet about covering DC’s crimes on their web sight, so why the need to have AC on national radio giving it poor me about what they initially treated as a non story? All feels very sinister to me.

It's so fucked up isn't it. Yes, the BBC were reluctant to even cover this story.

I feel so sorry for the poor victim in all of this who seems to have been totally forgotten as usual.

Beatrix Campbell's articles are worth reading for context:
www.byline.com/column/85/article/2300

www.byline.com/column/85/article/2394

threads following recent Veritas report:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3477761-Andrew-Gilligan-Times-Green-high-flyer-Aimee-Challenor-hid-father-s-rape-charges-David-Challenor-A-paedophile-rapist-posed-a-major-safeguarding-risk-for-almost-two-years

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3474311-Veritas-report-due-tomorrow-Thursday-at-midday-re-Aimee-Challenor

It's for rehabilitation. To make this the narrative and to make the past disappear because it is extremely inconvenient.

Why is it being given a platform? Why?
Jesus wept, radio 5 Live.
Then again, the BBC helping to excuse those with links to child abusers, who’d’ve thunk it.

Why have the BBC had AC on? The story barely made the papers, and the BBC really dragged their feet about covering DC’s crimes on their web sight, so why the need to have AC on national radio giving it poor me about what they initially treated as a non story? All feels very sinister to me.

The minimising of David Challenors crimes is so sinister.

'Annoyed' with him?

Fucking annoyed?

The closing statement was an insult coming from someone who thought their behaviour on social media was appropriate

I remember her taking Rory Stewart to task when he invented a Brexit stat off the top of his head. She's pretty good normally.

When the verdict first came in it was possible to view the Challenor family's personal FB pages and a group they'd set up to complain about social services (who had removed AC and siblings and placed them in care). This has all since been made private but screenshots exist and I saw plenty of the original sources myself.

AC was interviewed as a witness at the time of the arrest. FB posts make it clear she knew about it years ago, and knew who the victim was. The mother carried out a bit of a character assassination on the victim and insisted she was a liar. Deeply unpleasant stuff.

If you have a strong stomach you can see much of it on kiwifarms but it's a vile website and actually transphobic (as opposed to GC). The screenshots etc that are listed are all genuine though and very informative if you ignore the commentary given by the posters.

JSmitty. Really - I have heard her ripping into people from all parties without bias....

What’s the evidence about AC lying?

I heard this interview and my overarching sense was of ‘poor me, I didn’t deserve to be treated like this’ with the requisite faux sad voice.

Jesus. This is so fucked up.

Despite some token references to the victim, it's very clear that AC believes AC is really hard done by here, and needs to 'heal'.

"Annoyed" is for when your dad told the same joke he told last Xmas that nobody thought was funny then either, not for when dad has kidnapped, tortured, and raped a child.

AC says they did a lot of amazing things. Has agreed with Libdems to not stand for any positions for two years, so AC can heal and get training.

Has transatlantic partner and hints at leaving the country.

AC interrupts for a final word to say 'has learned'. We 'shouldn't forget there was a little girl who was absolutely hurt'.

"have you been annoyed with him?"

What the fuck sort of question is this?

He's a child rapist and the interviewer is asking if his family are annoyed ???