Most gender critical/female rights party?

JSmitty you forgot the women's equality party!

If nobody's mentioned it we need an actual women's party.

On issues of conscience such as this, MPs are traditionally given a free vote, they are not whipped.
Providing the political parties agree that this applies, as it did for gay marriage, abortion etc, then it is important for us to vote for the most GC candidates we can find. This means that there will not be a particular party to vote for, but that we may have to vote for candidates that would not normally be under consideration for us as individuals, inour particular constituency, although I personally draw a line at UKIP!

I’m in a Labour/Tory swing seat, currently Labour but it flips back and forth, so I do feel a responsibility in choosing who to vote for!

I’m a natural lefty, I’ve voted variously for Labour/LibDem/Greens in different elections/constituencies throughout my life, I’ve always thought I could never, would never vote Tory.

However.

Lib Dems & Greens are currently out for me anyway because of gender self ID, and would be a wasted vote where I am (I’ve previously vote swapped Labour for Lib Dem).
Labour is out because of gender self ID and the general Corbyn shitshow.

I genuinely would consider holding my nose and voting Tory on this single issue, which is bonkers. It’s either that or spoiling my vote with a gender critical slogan - which I definitely would do if it wasn’t for being in a swing seat and therefore feeling I had the potential to actually influence things.

I’d hope that losing a GE would mean Corbyn out on his ear so the Labour Party can sort themselves out.

I think this may be scrutiny of local candidates. If we can determine how our local candidates feel about this, and vote accordingly then we may end up with a majority of GC MPs. Of course if you live in a constituency like mine then it doesn’t really matter because it has never returned an MP other than a Tory, with, I believe, a majority that has never been out of the top 10 of safest seats.

Aarggh, why is it so difficult to find a party that supports women and their rights properly, when we are over half of the electorate ?

Yes the Lianne Wood idiocy, but they also have Helen Mary Jones.

^Ok so labour - Madigan etc, etc
lib Dems - Challenor .
Greens - Challenor debacle .
Conservatives - Maria Miller .
Plaid Cymru for those in Wales ?^

Not Plaid:

www.leannerhondda.wales/inclusive_feminism

current thread with interesting intervention by Labour peer Lord Moonie:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3480091-Madigan-and-Labour-The-next-battle#prettyPhoto

Plaid Cymru for those in Wales ?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3344122-Very-strongly-anti-woman-Welsh-Assembly-statement
see comment about Adam Price:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3381625-Leanne-Woods

Conservatives:
Christine Burns:
'During her time as a city IT consultant and a Tory activist, she chose not reveal her trans history to colleagues.[6] In 1995, Burns came out to local Tory leadership[7] in order to campaign more openly.[8] The British tabloids, however, chose to ignore her as she was "too ordinary".[9] Remembering this era, she jokes about her changing perception of herself as a trans activist: "I realised something had changed in 1997, when I realised it was more embarrassing to admit to being a conservative than to being a trans woman."
Wiki

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3383926-Sue-Pascoe

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3385533-Prominant-campaigning-role-of-Tara-Hewitt-NHS-TELI-Social-work-universities-etc

Ok so labour - Madigan etc, etc
lib Dems - Challenor .
Greens - Challenor debacle .
Conservatives - Maria Miller .
Plaid Cymru for those in Wales ?
Conservatives seem to have more hope of more GC MPs possibly ?
I had such high hopes of the WEP. Sob.

I'm in Scotland and voting snp on the basis of Joan mcalpine. She's not my msp but gives me hope that snp hasn't been lost to transgender ideology.

If labour get into power we have had it and self ID will be implemented. I think our best chance lies with the Conservatives unfortunately.

I feel the same. My conservative MP wrote a very encouraging response to my concerns about changes to the GRA. He's never voted against the party, so I think there is hope that the conservative may not be determined to push it through.

Let's just hope any Labour government that ever got in don't try and launch any initiatives to help disabled women then. Because Tracey won't get a look in.

It'll be Conservatives for me, solely because of this issue.

Things are that bad that even I, old school proper leftist, could see myself voting for a one nation Tory party that was committed to preserving women's rights.

(Don't think I could unless the one nation types were in the ascendant though. Not voting for the Randian nutcases under any circumstances.)

Tracey - that's fine. If you want to be single issue voter with regard to disability rights, go for it. It's your right. As it is the right of other women to vote on their rights as women first and foremost.

I have a disability so I won't be voting for a party (ie Conservative) who thinks people like me should just fend for ourselves and go jump in a lake while all the top bankers and the upper-classes benefit

If labour get into power we have had it and self ID will be implemented. I think our best chance lies with the Conservatives unfortunately. I visited my local Tory MP and he is strongly gender critical so I will be voting for him for the first time ever and I told my labour candidate that I won't be voting for him and why.

with all due respect, when it comes to voting for a party we should take everything into account not just gender critical issues

Nah this is too fundamental to me, I'm prepared to vote solely on this issue in the next election. What good are policies that help women when 'woman' is a meaningless term?

Whilst The Conservative Party need to address the many issues with the Transgender Equality Inquiry led by Maria Miller MP as detailed by Professor Kathleen Stock:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3391330-Prof-Kathleen-Stock-WPUK-speech-at-House-of-Lords-Important-disection-of-the-key-issues-for-MPs-policy-makers-etc-with-ref-to-The-Trans-Equality-Report

& of course the issues with the NHS Safeguarding issues caused by the deliberate conflation of sex and gender:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3475792-Telegraph-article-NHS-trans-row-as-men-get-access-to-womens-wards-if-they-identify-as-female

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3477104-NHS-say-ignore-parents-even-if-child-is-not-Gillick-competent

If labour get in there won't be a way of reversing this.

A question for any Labour MP or candidate is whether Stephen Whittle, prominant and influential TRA, is correct in his assertions on FWR:

In the end we will pull ourselves together and continue the campaigning – as we have always done. We know we have Labour behind this one, so will simply do our best to get them elected. As I tell the community “we have always lost more battles than we have won, but we only ever need to win the big one”.

I hope that clarifies matters.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3397010-Guardian-article-on-MPs-concern-with-GRA?msgid=81891984#81891984

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398127-Stephen-Whittle-influential-TRA-asserts-We-know-we-have-Labour-behind-this-one-so-will-simply-do-our-best-to-get-them-elected-Corbyn-seems-to-confirm-this-at-Pink-News