You can have your own belief, don't impose it on other people, yes Monroe stated this on ITV

Talking of Hampstead Ladies Pond, there was an item on the local London morning news on the Beeb earlier. They touched on, but did not directly mention the Man Friday protest at the men's pond but THEY INTERVIEWED A REAL, LIVE LESBIAN for her views on the subject. It was mere seconds of an insert but at least from what I saw they didn't trivialise or mis-report, so it's a start

cf interview in Liverpool Echo February 2016:

"What it's like to be Transgender and Catholic
Tara Hewitt, NHS equality and diversity advisor, doesn't believe in abortion or IVF but says it doesn't affect her job

(extract)
A transgender woman who converted to Catholicism speaks out about her beliefs and how it doesn’t affect her role in the NHS.

Tara Hewitt, 30, who works in the Wirral as the boroughs’s equality and diversity advisor said she is pro-life but ‘doesn’t force those views on others.’

She said:“I don’t believe in terminating life... Life starts at conception and then if you terminate life after that then you’re ending a life.

“That’s my view, I can’t have children, I don’t judge people for making their decisions – I have friends who have had abortions.” (continues)

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/what-its-like-transgender-catholic-10810323

current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3309445-BBC-London-Tara-Hewitt-talking-about-Hampstead-Ladies-Pond

@TheBiologicalWoman Agree.

FFS

metro.co.uk/2018/07/17/morning-viewers-disgusted-doctor-refusing-help-transgender-patients-bring-wrath-god-onto-society-7725432/

I find the repeated insistence that the current date has anything to do with evidence based biological fact absolutely bonkers.

Also frustrating that Ruth and Eamon played devil's advocate to say the world has changed

I think PhilipScofield made a similar point last week when interviewing IW

They so rarely give anyone a platform who can adequately challenge.

This may have been pitched as Bible bashing doctor is an outdated bigot by wide eyed researchers. Unfortunately, he did little to change the agenda, which is what irks the most.

Just watched this.

Frustrating that the dr kept referring to gender instead of sex and bringing religion into it. Was hoping he might be more of a Lord Robert Winston type, just fixed on the science.

Also frustrating that Ruth and Eamon played devil's advocate to say the world has changed, inferring that the dr is a luddite.

I liked the dr's warning sex and gender education in schools. It may stir some parents.

This may have been pitched

Does anybody know if Munroe had their surgery on the NHS?

Just watched it. Is believing that male humans and female humans differ biologically really just "a belief" restricted to the Christian faith?

Also, I'd love to see one media appearance with a trans person where suicide stats weren't brought up in response to a completely unrelated talking point. Not really on board with the Doctor conflating sex and gender either though. What a mess.

I've just watched it.

Monroe Bergdorf "84% of trans young people are either self-harming or have attempted suicide"

Interesting that Monroe also highlighted that paperwork including passports can be changed re male/female.

The Dr commented, 'this is being driven'

Not sure why someone didn't comment that there is more in common with faith and TR ideology than science?

www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-topics/the-doctor-sacked-for-refusing-to-acknowledge-gender-change

This Morning is a ridiculous programme for this sort of thing. It's a bit like the telly equivalent of those true story testimony magazines that you find in hospitals and GP surgery waiting rooms.
It's the last programme I'd expect to find sense and balance. Eamonn and Ruth are certainly better than Holly and Phil, but it's just not the kind of format that allows for real nuance.

God yeah, just think of Magdalen, 1000 times more intelligent and incisive than mediocrities like Bergdorf, Faye, Lees, Willoughby, Dawson who are given endless platforms and unearned privilege. Makes me sick.

Exactly. And why do these mediocre males get these platforms? Where are all the FTMs? QED.

You can have your own belief, don't impose it on other people

you would think that the obvious response to this would be, "But you made recently made a program recently called 'What Makes a Woman'!"

threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3225221-what-makes-a-woman-documentary-by-munroe-bergdorf

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3251002-Munroe-Bergdorf-What-Makes-a-Woman-Channel-4-16-5

The researchers on This Morning don't appear to do much background.

cf last week's interview with India Willoughby
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3302512-India-Willoughby-has-had-facial-feminisation-surgery

@Pachyderm yes. Magdalen would wipe the floor with someone like Willoughby.

What MB doesn't realise is they are being used by a bunch of white adult males who love their dicks to further their cause. People see MB and feel sympathy that they wouldn't have for a cross dressing male with a sexual fetish

I'm minded that MB does realise this but is a tragic figure that will buy into it, even as a victim of it

I mean what could they possibly have in common, those five?

God yeah, just think of Magdalen, 1000 times more intelligent and incisive than mediocrities like Bergdorf, Faye, Lees, Willoughby, Dawson who are given endless platforms and unearned privilege. Makes me sick.

Although MB annoys me, they at least admit they are biologically male. MB is also said they are attracted to men and have dysphoria, so your classic transexual.

What MB doesn't realise is they are being used by a bunch of white adult males who love their dicks to further their cause. People see MB and feel sympathy that they wouldn't have for a cross dressing male with a sexual fetish.

Bloody annoying that they keep using gender instead of sex.

Another case of ‘Women, know your place!’