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A woman with serious violence issues jailed

64 replies

TerfAndSerf · 24/04/2018 22:39

MtF transgender Paris Valeta Bragazzi has been sent to a mens' prison after 'her' second assault on a police officer.

Bragazzi now has a total of 65 convictions.

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Polynerd · 25/04/2018 01:02

Does anyone know whether it is possible to find out whether crimes such as these are recorded as being committed by women?
And on a more trivial note, what is it about the name Paris?

Trumpdump · 25/04/2018 00:55

I would rather the press didn't report these crimes than report them as FEMALE crimes! Angry

Honestly, this criminal is a violent waste of space, yet I just know that the TRA fan club will be harping on about the injustice of "Paris's" situation for the next few weeks!

viques · 25/04/2018 00:15

Aw bless "emotional pain" .well that makes it all right then doesn't it.

Maryz · 25/04/2018 00:08

Sorry, somehow Feminism Chat was among my many hidden topics. It's really weird, because Adoption was there too, and a few others I would certainly never hide on purpose.

Anyway, sorry for derail; all sorted now.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/04/2018 00:06

I'm seeing about 5 feminism chat threads in active at the moment.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/04/2018 00:04

No, I've done nothing special. Maybe some difference in criteria app vs browser or mobile? (I don't see why there would be but it's possible)

Maryz · 25/04/2018 00:02

In fact, nothing from Feminism in my Active, or in my Last 15 minutes or Last Hour [baffled]

Maryz · 25/04/2018 00:01

That is seriously weird. Do we have to "opt in" to Feminism? Because it's not in mine, and these threads used to be Confused

AssassinatedBeauty · 24/04/2018 23:59

Yes it's on my active list.

ErrolTheDragon · 24/04/2018 23:59

Yes, I can see it in active

JustABrokenDoll · 24/04/2018 23:59

There were 2 assaults in the most recent incident.

One against a policewoman who was trying to arrest them for antisocial and criminal behaviour and the other 5 days later (spraying perfume into a security guard's face) whilst on bail for the original offence.

They were already on a suspended sentence for pushing a policeman onto train tracks some months earlier.

Then we have the small issue of their previous 63 (excluding the train track incident) offences.

I don't have any time for bleeding heart excuses for this serial offender irrespective of whether they are male or female.

Maryz · 24/04/2018 23:57

As an aside, can anyone see this thread in Active or Last 15 minutes?

Has the Feminism board been hidden again?

TinklyLittleLaugh · 24/04/2018 23:57

The article pretty much spells out that the offender is a trans person though.

And she is going to a male jail.

The only thing I have issue with is how her crime is recorded.

ErrolTheDragon · 24/04/2018 23:52

A report on the tube incident seems to manage to avoid 'woman' at least metro.co.uk/2018/02/20/transgender-beautician-pushed-police-officer-onto-tube-tracks-four-bottles-prosecco-7327703/

DarthArts · 24/04/2018 23:49

Wonder if Pink News will report on this?

OlennasWimple · 24/04/2018 23:49

I don't doubt that the person in the reports is deeply troubled, and that has in some large part contributed to erratic, violent and dangerous behaviour. But that's why we have a criminal justice system that takes this stuff into account, weighs up the public interest and passes judgement accordingly. I would guess that the 65 previous convictions and the very recent suspended sentence reflected this. However, there comes a time when the line is crossed and we can't look the other way and find extenuating circumstances any more, because we also need to protect the public.

It's to be hoped that the prison is able to offer assistance (drug rehab, therapy) to help the convict on release live a peaceful life and be a valuable member of the community.

If this is recorded as a female conviction, it will be a travesty and illustrate the dangers in the system we are in at the moment

BigChocFrenzy · 24/04/2018 23:48

So, a woman with serious violence issues, no surprise
but yet another case of the crime statistics being distorted, so it may appear that the % of violent "women" is increasing

We need to campaign for separate crime statistics for transwomen.
Unfortunately, while TRAs claim there is insufficient evidence that transwomen follow the crime patterns of other men, they aggressively oppose this obvious way of obtaining more statistics

Irishfeminist · 24/04/2018 23:44

Such violence towards women as well..two elderly ladies and assaulting a policewoman. They CAN'T record this as a female-committed crime.

TerfAndSerf · 24/04/2018 23:44

Wombman, for the London Underground, a train isn't necessary to kill someone.

All you have to do is touch the live rail and you could electrocute yourself.

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Maryz · 24/04/2018 23:41

Why are the Daily Mail not accepting comments on this do you think?

It's utterly bizarre, how it's being reported.

DarthArts · 24/04/2018 23:40

It's interesting it was used as mitigation.

I believe the same was done for Tara Wood?

Wombman · 24/04/2018 23:38

Exactly what if a train had arrived when they pushed the police man onto the tube tracks.

thebewilderness · 24/04/2018 23:28

The constant sympathy for violent male perps who suffer from aggrieved entitlement never ceases to amaze me. Particularly when coupled with complete disregard for the victims of violence.

OohMavis · 24/04/2018 23:11

Will it depend on whether they have a GRC, or can people self-identify as what they're jailed as?

TerfAndSerf · 24/04/2018 23:09

So despite being held in custody in a men's prison will this crime be recorded as committed by a woman?

Good question. Confused

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