Evidence of misandry on Feminist chat.

“My objection comes when people start to bundle all sorts of other things into the label of 'feminism' and claim it's still just about equality“

Like what?

Lass

Do you really think being accused of not seeing dirt is offensive and oppressive to men?

We don't. Join us here on Team Don't Give A Shit, it's much more fun!

Lang

See my original post,I haven't labelled anyone as being a misandrist.

The idea that women can't be guilty of the equivalent of misogyny because there are no power inbalances in their favour seems to be very convenient. It seems like letting yourself off too easily

Who has said this? I'm sure women can be guilty of misandry. The thread is asking for examples.
So far the examples have been discussed from a range of viewpoints.

Jeez, why do feminists have to spend all their time explaining that they don’t hate men? It’s so tiring.

I remember most of the shops in the town I went to high school in having those signs. My classmates and I coped without any whataboutism.

Anyway this point:
the low-level "men don't see dirt" is clearly misandry
Actually, this is quite the opposite of misandry. It is patriarch compliance, it is upholding the gendered hierarchy where men are too above/too important to take part in domestic wife work.

Noticing dirt is the female domian it's up to females to sort out the dirt, and pretending that men just can't see dirt reinforces this notion conveniently

No I agree with Betrand- it is misandry. Your explanation is an example of what I mentioned earlier- women cannot ever be in the wrong or be responsible for their actions (or just behave like grown-ups) because hey, the patriarchy !.

IfYouSee

I'm not disagreeing that those kind of attitudes do exist. Im saying that using their existence to portray all men as feeling the same way is unwarranted.

The posters saying I should be out fighting for feminism instead of posting on here. It is possible to care about more than one thing at once.

I have been told many times that all feminism is, is equality. I am a passionate believer in all forms of equality. On those terms, I am a feminist.

My objection comes when people start to bundle all sorts of other things into the label of 'feminism' and claim it's still just about equality.

In the event that someone did the above, I would in fact think they were being a tosser and should acquire a sense of perspective.

“If a group of Indian people on the internet were discussing how all white English people are scum because of colonialism, it would be completely justified to call them out on it.”

I agree. You show me where anyone has said all men are violent/rapists and i’ll join you in calling them out on it.

If a group of Indian people on the internet were discussing how all white English people are scum because of colonialism, it would be completely justified to call them out on it.

Would you do that?

If you're a shop rather than a person, then sure, feel free to worry about the category of person statistically most likely to steal small easily hidden items from your shelves

Round my way it's absolutely normal for shops to have signs up saying "no more than 2 schoolchildren at one time" and having a member of staff policing the door at the end of the school day.

These shop owners don't need abstract numbers on who is statistically more likely to nick stuff from their shops - they actually see and experience it all the time and have to take these precautions as a consequence.

Are you not going to respond to anyone except me, Patriarchy? That's not very polite. If you want women to listen to you it's important to be nice!

OP, it would have been helpful if you had provided evidence of your own rather than just starting a thread and expecting other people to respond.

I think the point is that there isn't any...or if there is it is usually deleted. Unless you can see hundreds of screenshots/links and it's just me that can't?

“Sorry, OP, it was poster KingHaggisIV that I was responding to in regards to coming across MRA like.”

Oh, yes. He’s busted and gone. They are getting better at it- we need to be careful.

I think most men need educating out of harmful socialisation that is deleterious to women and girls. Clearly, there is a spectrum from rapist and domestic abuser to generally benign but still extant.

As a person who prefers class analysis, this is my approach to feminism.

If you regard this as misandry, PatriarchyPersonified, it's absolutely no skin off my nose. Cos I'm that much of a misandrist, as I said earlier, that I don't give a shiny shit.

Kittens

I don't think your analogy works.

If a group of Indian people on the internet were discussing how all white English people are scum because of colonialism, it would be completely justified to call them out on it.

OP, it would have been helpful if you had provided evidence of your own rather than just starting a thread and expecting other people to respond.

Oh, Upstart Crow -you know you’re really a MisogynistRaven. Or an MRARook.............

Feminist Feathers Don’t Make Feminist Birds, you know.......

OP you definitely do across MRA-like.

No she doesn't. She is calling the MRA apologists out.

Sorry, OP, it was poster KingHaggisIV that I was responding to in regards to coming across MRA like.

How do you know what men talk about? From my perspective, nobody that I know thinks that violence towards women, rape or misogyny is acceptable.

Have you visited the internet recently? It is dripping with misogyny. Just this morning I was googling a particular actress and found a video dedicated to calling her a cunt with a rap overlay on how to bring the bitch in line by busting up her face. Nice.

I mean come on! The POTUFS is on record boasting about grabbing pussies and doing whatever you like to women just because you can.

That’s how we know what some men talk about.

Great post patodp btw.

I've seen OP around and she's not an MRA. The thread has attracted some, unfortunately.