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Evidence of misandry on Feminist chat.

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UpstartCrow · 24/02/2018 23:11

The last few days, there have been several claims of misandry on Feminist Chat. Please post examples here using a link and screen shot.

Thank you.

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mirialis · 25/02/2018 12:29

'Misandry' I think its the same as being black and being racist against white western people. Yeah its not a good or okay thing but its very different from the reverse of it because of the structure of power and also because of the prevalence of abuse women face

That thread about looking at a little boy and wondering if he would grow up to become a rapist was just very sad. And I say this as a mother of a little boy. I certainly dont look at little boys like that but if a woman does its more likely that it has come out of her facing violence and sexual abuse from men than from some irrational hatred. Thats something to be pitied and dealt with not something to be written off as a hatred

At the end of the day when 1 in 3 women has faced sexual assault from a man its hardly surprising when some end up suspicious and frightened. I dont think you can write that off as irrational hatred really

I didn’t see that thread and I see Betrand has said it was written by a troll so I don’t know about how the question was posed and the tone of the thread, but in itself is it a case of awful misandry?

My afro-carribean neighbours’ sons are always top of their class or thereabouts, do lots of activities (sports, choirs, church etc.) and I was commenting to them about what superstars their boys are and how polite and kind they are to me when I see them. They said they watch them like hawks because "you have to be careful with black boys”. There is a gang culture in the city and black boys are the most vulnerable to getting caught up in it in our area. It was a comment on our society, on the patriarchy, on racism, the things that drive people into behaviours rather than being a racist and sexist comment IMV.

Patodp · 25/02/2018 12:27

Misandrist

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 25/02/2018 12:09

But it is still evidence of the fabled 'misanderist' comment Grin

I dont think im spelling that right..the misanderst bit

See im trying different ways and my spell check is refusing to help me...

UpstartCrow · 25/02/2018 12:08

Disingenuous? Ok.

I gave the examples I was thinking of at the top of this page. The claim has been made, has been supported in a vague way by several people. But no examples can be given, so I think the belief is driven by conformation bias.

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Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 25/02/2018 12:07

I think upstart is rightly annoyed about all the 'you are all manhating misanderists' type comments

When there are actually not many comments like these on the feminist boards (woukdnt deny there are elsewhere)

And the worst one so far appears to be a troll one

LassWiADelicateAir · 25/02/2018 11:57

I thought upstart wanted examples of misandry

I can't work out what upstart wants from this thread.

QuentinSummers · 25/02/2018 11:56

It is a bit disingenuous to start a thread about misandry shortly after an apparent troll posted something outrageous about boys (I didn't see the thread in question though).
I am a bit sceptical of OPs motivation

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 25/02/2018 10:54

Not the particular post you were referencing though. Most quickly slammed it down and it was deleted

Im getting confused

I thought upstart wanted examples of misandry

Not examples of misandry that lots people agreed with

But i agree with the premise for a site full of misandrist man haters there aren't many examples

I would also say that I honestly think that some 'new' posters on both sides of debate like to stir the fucking pot...its interesting that some of the more contentious statements are made by new posters or 'wow what a coincidence...i name change frequently and just happened to have name changed for this comment ' posters

(Apologies to those who honestly change frequently...my comment is directed more at ploppers)

PatriarchyPersonified · 25/02/2018 10:52

Angry

Sigh.

I'm not an MRA.

UpstartCrow · 25/02/2018 10:34

PatriarchyPersonified
''Feminist movements campaign for womens rights'. Women dont always need 'equality', they often need the right to make decisions about issues that affect women. Feminism sometimes means liberation rather than equality.

Should Black people need to ask white people to give them equality? How should Black people talk about the problems they face? Should white people tell them how to run their movement and tone police them? Are the problems they face caused by white people reacting to their activism?

If you frame it that way maybe it's easier to see the problem.

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LangCleg · 25/02/2018 10:32

My Nutella jar has TARDIS qualities. So there is plenty to share (with women because I'm a misandrist who hates men. Let's not forget that bit).

windchimesabotage · 25/02/2018 10:30

oh was it sorry? I didnt read it through or comment on it. I just saw it and thought 'thats really sad'

BertrandRussell · 25/02/2018 10:29

“That thread about looking at a little boy and wondering if he would grow up to become a rapist was just very sad.”

And started by a troll.

windchimesabotage · 25/02/2018 10:28

'Misandry' I think its the same as being black and being racist against white western people. Yeah its not a good or okay thing but its very different from the reverse of it because of the structure of power and also because of the prevalence of abuse women face.

That thread about looking at a little boy and wondering if he would grow up to become a rapist was just very sad.
And I say this as a mother of a little boy. I certainly dont look at little boys like that but if a woman does its more likely that it has come out of her facing violence and sexual abuse from men than from some irrational hatred. Thats something to be pitied and dealt with not something to be written off as a hatred.
At the end of the day when 1 in 3 women has faced sexual assault from a man its hardly surprising when some end up suspicious and frightened. I dont think you can write that off as irrational hatred really.

And im saying this as someone happily married to a man who has a son and many many amazing men in their life.

AngryAttackKittens · 25/02/2018 10:24

(Angry man runs back to MRA forum screeching "see, I knew that's what they wanted all along! That and our balls!")

AngryAttackKittens · 25/02/2018 10:23

Our bench is spacious and well padded, and we have room for as many women as want to join.

Maybe Lang will even share her Nutella if we're lucky.

Patodp · 25/02/2018 10:23

(Joke)

Patodp · 25/02/2018 10:22

The misunderstanding that feminism = equality is what got us into this mess with the TRAs in the first place.

Everyone knows what we really want is global domination for women.

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 25/02/2018 10:21

AngryAttackKittens. Just as I’ve reached #peaktrans I’ve also reached #peakhavingtoexplainfeministsdonthatemen. So can I come sit on your bench with Team Doesn’t Give a Shit?

Cos life is too short.

QuentinSummers · 25/02/2018 10:16

Cba to read the whole thread. The term Misandry is a bat signal and I have better things to do.

However I did read doctortwo post and just popped on to say please start that thread. It sounds great.

LangCleg · 25/02/2018 10:15

I have Nutella. And I made the slave DH spread it for me.

AngryAttackKittens · 25/02/2018 10:12

Still not doing your research for you, lazy bloke. Taking the word patriarchy out of scare quotes might help. Just a tip!

AngryAttackKittens · 25/02/2018 10:11

Unless the ducking pool is full of maple syrup, in which case it might be quite convenient.

PatriarchyPersonified · 25/02/2018 10:11

Angry

So equality... Can't find any other definitions.

Although according to Lang, that's the 'wank' definition.

So what's the right one?

Evidence of misandry on Feminist chat.
LangCleg · 25/02/2018 10:10

Women creating a movement by and for women? That's wicked, that is. Clearly she's a witch.

He says misandry. I say bantz.

Obviously, I think bantz is a good game and also an appropriate response to silly, sanctimonious men on feminist messageboards. He may well think misandry.

I'm happy with either.

Take me directly to the ducking stool! Actually, no. Take me to the ducking stool after I've eaten my pancakes.

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