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Tell me lovely things about having a baby girl

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OTheHugeManatee · 20/04/2016 10:29

I feel quite ashamed to admit this. I'm 20wks with my first child and we found out at the scan she's a little girl. Though of course I'm overjoyed that I seem to be growing a healthy baby, my second thought was 'bad luck little one, this is becoming an increasingly shit world in which to be born female'.

I think about the plastic tits, the objectification, the erosion of women-only spaces and the vanishing right to define ourselves by biology rather than ladybrain, the porn, the death of feminism, the pay gap, the Cologne attacks, the myriad ways in which women's rights are being set back and back and back and I think 'how am I going to protect my little girl against all this?' Sad

So, feminist mothers of daughters, please cheer me up with the positives. Tell me how it's going to be brilliant, and please tell me your strategies for raising strong, confident girls in the teeth of all the bullshit.

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VestalVirgin · 20/04/2016 11:12

... I don't know, your daughter will be morally superior to those who oppress her?

Comfort yourself with the fact that you have not brought another member of the oppressor class into this world.

(Yeah, I know, all moms on here raise their sons to be decent guys, but raising someone who has privilege to give up that privilege will be more difficult than teaching a daughter that she will not, in the long run, profit from shitting on other women.)

deepdarkwood · 20/04/2016 11:09

Yes, girls face a set of challenges that boys don't face. But whilst there are many steps back at the moment, there are also so many steps that have been taken forwards. My dd (I have one of each) is the most confident, 'can-do' little person - a leader and someone who is utterly, utterly happy in her own skin. She's taught me a lot about not getting bogged down in the theory and the problems, but also engaging with the good and great things about being female. Some of the things that maybe I'd lost sight of. We have a special bond, and she very much sees our bond 'as women' as being something different to the (very close) relationship she has with my dh.

She is 10, and at the moment is navigating the whole thing of 1.starting to like boys; 2. realising there is an 'official' line to what makes girls attractive; and 3. rejecting that to embrace being herself/not spending time and energy trying to fit into the model. She's thought it through on her own, & I think that's a pretty amazing thing to have sorted at 10 (I am fully expecting her to wobble in the next few years, mind you!) I wonder sometimes if the fact that the pressures are so out there sometimes helps you to spot them....

YorkieDorkie · 20/04/2016 11:08

Their smiles are just the most heartwarming sight Smile I don't see my DD as a "female" yet - she's my baby girl and she'll find her own way in this crazy world with my help.

I hope she has the confidence to go to school with no makeup on, wear non objectifying clothing, use her brain, follow her heart... We can but try!

MrsJayy · 20/04/2016 11:05

That's a shame you have that view I know I just had babies I brought them up as children if that makes sense you have years and years to mould your girl into a wonderful woman its not all fake tits and tan its fine my girls are now women and are fab even if I do say so myselfGrin just let your baby develop and grow it will be ok

whattheseithakasmean · 20/04/2016 11:00

I adore my teenage girls, although I wouldn't say it is easy. Toddlers are hard work, but the baby and primary years were a complete delight. Back to hard work in the teens....

What I would say is, just because they are female, don't assume they will fit in a box, or go for all the typical teen girl stuff you see in the media. My two girls are chalk and cheese. One is quiet, studious and introverted and the other is dramatic, lazy and loud! Character traits you find in both sexes, actually.

Maybe I am lucky because we live in the country, but they don't seem that invested or interested in all the plastic tits, fake look stuff. I think teen girls are smarter than a lot of older people give them credit for - there is a lot of unconscious bias against young females, as much by older feminists.

So I would be confident and brave that you will learn from your daughter just as much as she learns from you. Yes, she will up in a different world to you, but the past wasn't perfect, there is no perfect world. I think looking forward boldly rather than with trepidation is the way to go.

steppemum · 20/04/2016 10:59

The world has changed since I was a kid.
The world will change again as your daughter grows up. Who knows what it will be like in 30 years?

I have a ds and 2 dd. They are all wonderful in their own unique way.
I love the fact that they are individuals. I don't see them primarily as female or male, but in relation to their characters.
I am bringing my son up to be one of the good guys. I am bringing my girls up to be strong, free thinking intelligent women, who will take a stand in the world. But I want that for my son too.

Role model the woman you want her to be.

OTheHugeManatee · 20/04/2016 10:59

Thanks everyone. I'm probably extra agitated about this because hormonal, but I do think my worries are valid. I guess we can only do our best though, challenge the bullshit when it rears its head and above all teach our daughters to think for themselves and not be afraid to question how things are.

All sounds a bit wishy-washy, but she is after all only a 20wk foetus at the moment...

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OTheHugeManatee · 20/04/2016 10:56

I have a newborn son so I can tell you one of the lovely things about having a girl is that she won't pee in your face while you're changing her nappy.

Grin
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chunkymum1 · 20/04/2016 10:50

I have no doubt that your DD will be a strong and amazing person and will be well placed to take on the world- from what you have said (and the fact that you have not bought in to the lie that feminism is no longer needed) she has an excellent role model.

I have a DD who is just approaching the teenage years and I share your concerns but my view is that the main thing I can do is to make her aware of these things (when age appropriate obviously), model the right behaviour and continue to challenge behaviour/words that go against what I believe in. I also have a DS and I think it is equally important for all that DH and I also discuss gender equality/appropriate behaviour to women with him. My DH is on board with this (not sure I could have borne his children if he was not)- I think that's important too.

Muskateersmummy · 20/04/2016 10:49

I would say the positive of having a little girl is being able to raise them strong, independent and able to make their own choices and to challenge those injustices they may face.

crazycatdad · 20/04/2016 10:46

I have a newborn son so I can tell you one of the lovely things about having a girl is that she won't pee in your face while you're changing her nappy.

Not what you were looking for, I know, but you'll be grateful for small mercies. Smile

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