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Troll hunting, why it's not a good idea and why we deleted the Rarebird thread

217 replies

JustineMumsnet · 06/07/2010 18:02

Hi all,
We've just deleted the Rarebird thread as it had deteriorated into a bunfighting trollhunt. As we've said in previous posts we do think it's better to work on the assumption that posters are telling the truth and after a lot of digging we have found nothing to suggest that Rarebird is anything other than genuine.

Of course you can never be sure of any poster's real identity but we think it's better to err on the side of being occasionally taken in than on the side of being sceptical of genuine posters. If you take a different view (and we do understand that some folk do) then quite simply it's best not to get involved in threads such as these and we'd rather you did that than post suspicions on the thread. Mumsnet will be a worse place if folks routinely assume that any unusual post is a troll making it up.

Of course anyone who has genuine concerns please do tell us - we'll always take a look.

Many thanks,
Justine

OP posts:
misdee · 06/07/2010 20:22

but it was huge. and getting more and more unbeliveable. even now i cant belive we survived all that . i was pretty much full term, dh was being assessed for transplabnt etc etc. it was madness. dd3 spent tyime in SCBU, the flase alarms, the LVAD, ICd etc etc.

fruitstick · 06/07/2010 20:22

I agree this has all become most unpleasant. I admit, I read her threads and didn't believe that her story could be quite so traumatic as she made out. However I decided that, give my scepticism, it wasn't worth commenting on.

In terms of trolls, what is really so bad about it? Actually? If someone posts for support we should be happy to give it. If they didn't actually need it then we have all wasted some time but, in reality, is it any more wasted than giving advice to someone we have never met who we will never know. If they are a troll, all that happens is they get advice and comfort that they don't need. If the story is genuine then all to the good.

As for dragging up painful experiences for other people, that happens whether the case is real or not. Why is it worse if the OP is making it up?

Giving people the benefit of the doubt surely has to be the only way to be.

SagacityNell · 06/07/2010 20:19

No Misdee. You had only one "thing" to tell us.

misdee · 06/07/2010 20:18

imagine if peters story was being told now i would be a troll wouldnt i?

grumpypants · 06/07/2010 20:03

but what concerns me is that someone will point out a perceived discrepancy in the story/thread and start biscuiting/ hmming, which sets off other people so the mood changes, and it seems the tide turns. The reason for the original query could be
a poster getting it wrong
the OP using short hand and not full facts
the OP trying to cover up her RL identity

but it can then lead to lots of piling in and finding things that don't add up, sometimes, because they don't correlate exactly to a poster's own unique experience of SCBU/SEN/whatever.

I posted when I first joined mumsnet (different name) about ds having a condition discovered in utero and received some lovely comments. I would hate now to ask for support on mumsnet and use my shorthand of having a 'funny hole at the bottom of his brain' (which is not the technical term, or really v accurate at all) and being pulled up for not matching. Just some thoughts.

VuvuzelaPlenticlew · 06/07/2010 20:00

God, missed this one, can't say I'm sorry to have overlooked it.

bibbitybobbityhat · 06/07/2010 19:24

I'm glad its gone too as far too many people were wasting care and concern on a fake. Honestly, there are some potential troll cases where you feel a little suspicious but post or ignore accordingly. And there are others where the exploitation of kindly souls who are becoming too involved and sharing too much becomes really intolerable to witness.

lucykate · 06/07/2010 19:19

glad it's gone, it did turn rather nasty, but also glad i got to read bof's theory before it went poof

nickschick · 06/07/2010 19:07

sorry!!

ninah · 06/07/2010 19:04

megonthemoon

nickschick · 06/07/2010 19:03

who is megan?

GypsyMoth · 06/07/2010 18:54

Yeah,yeah megan!!!

RamonaThePest · 06/07/2010 18:49

I was accused of trolling on a US site when I lived there at the time. Some of what I was saying may have sounded exagerrated - but it was all absolutely true, hurtful and vile though it was. Hard to imagine, hard to believe, doesn't always mean untrue.

I posted when I was feeling very vulnerable, and the accusation really hurt.

Have never accused anyone of being a troll. You just never know.

ninah · 06/07/2010 18:43

glad the damned thing is gone and hope the spin offs go too

nickschick · 06/07/2010 18:38

I was accused of being a troll at xmas me?? nickschick herself and I was having a dreadful time to be called a troll was rotten .....only 'anyfucker' saved me {never thought id say that ]

IsGraceAvailable · 06/07/2010 18:32

Sad to say I agree, Kerry.

I have quit Mumsnet once before, though, due to this type of thing. When I came back, years later - last year - it seemed a lot more intelligent & empathetic (though I was accused of trolling on my third post!!)

It probably just a cyclical thing and/or whipped up by a few individuals. It'll probably go back to its (fairly) lovely self quite soon. I'm very sorry for the people who've been flamed & stalked in the middle of their distress.

Tbh, if any troll were persistent & inventive enough to post threads like the ones I'm thinking of, they have got problems and should be treated with gentleness ...

alexisfaith · 06/07/2010 18:30

Good work MNHQ

donnie · 06/07/2010 18:25

insania

SanctiMoanyArse · 06/07/2010 18:25

KM me neitehr

Last time I asked for some- post budget when we were worried that we would lose our home (we still might, although we'll go down fighting) I was told to stop over reacting.

Never going to bother again tbh.

KerryMumbles · 06/07/2010 18:24

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usualsuspect · 06/07/2010 18:23

was the usual troll hysteria SEA ....

KerryMumbles · 06/07/2010 18:23

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BusyMissIzzy · 06/07/2010 18:22

You're probably right. DD was taking a long nap, I was bored. I don't have many friends round here.

AuntieMaggie · 06/07/2010 18:21

Good idea MN - I think it's such a shame that some people with bizarre and sad stories receive a lot of support and advice where others end up bing treated like this.

southeastastra · 06/07/2010 18:21

what was it all about then, i totally ignored it for some reason