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MNHQ, a word in your shell-like please - about these pro-BNP threads... consider this a petition

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TheLadyOfTheGreenKirtle · 12/05/2010 13:46

hasn't this gone far enough? these threads are being allowed to stand which considering the "policies" of the BNP and the views expressed by "activists" is appalling. yes, free speech is wonderful, but some of these threads can be seen as inciting racial hatred, there are many, many, disablist, homophobic, racist remarks made and implied and they always go the same way. the threads are started to cause a bunfight. the BNP will not get anymore supporters on here, so why be deliberately controversial?

mn is a self-moderated site. this is great and one of the reasons i use it. however, the mners are now moderating and saying that we have had enough. we have complained a LOT about this type of thing - please take note!

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sarah293 · 12/05/2010 16:35

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scurryfunge · 12/05/2010 16:29

this is interesting 2shoes

it could fit

CatIsSleepy · 12/05/2010 16:29

I just don't understand the motivation for dp's threads, and hijacking of threads

there is no actual engagement or real debate with those who disagree with her, no acknowledgement or understanding of why her views offend others, just unsupported statements about not liking this or that to do with immigrants or whoever and when things get heated she tends to backtrack and start talking about music or something

am with pagwatch, it's DULL
and along the way, many people get offended
i don't get it

Kaloki · 12/05/2010 16:28

Much as I'd like to see those kind of posters banned, I can see why not.

What I've seen done on other forums is the three strikes rule. Banning someone outright gives them a chance to play a martyr - and lets face it, BNP supporters love playing that role! I'd like to see the three strikes rule started from now, so no excuses of "I didn't know I wasn't meant to be racist/homophobic/just generally nasty"

Offensive commemts are offensive comments, whether specific or generalised and shouldn't be allowed.

2shoes · 12/05/2010 16:24

but isn't the www public?

scurryfunge · 12/05/2010 16:22

2shoes, I don't think that is covered from dwelling to dwelling....if the posts were displayed in public though it would be different. The law needs reviewing

Aitch · 12/05/2010 16:19

oh yes, i'd forgotten the 'suck it up, why should we fund your indulgent desire to procreate?' thread... that was a doozy. and the depression is for losers one... jeez.

2shoes · 12/05/2010 16:17

doen't it come under inciting racial hatred?

ClaireDeLoon · 12/05/2010 16:17

Aitch in addition to your list there was also a thread where she slated people suffering with depression and said anyone unable to have children should just 'suck it up'. She's quite wide ranging in her offensiveness.

Aitch · 12/05/2010 16:17

i don't think they would have done, tbh, she's quite well-versed in the bnp delivery.

scurryfunge · 12/05/2010 16:14

Nah, don't think so either Aitch but some of the posts may have fallen foul of the law. Some could be recorded as a "racial incident" maybe....The law hasn't really caught up with the internet yet.

Aitch · 12/05/2010 16:12

i don't think the police have an anti-troll squad, do they? this is an mnhq headache.

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scurryfunge · 12/05/2010 16:10

Right, if people feel strongly that a poster has broken the law then why not report directly to the Police? I'm sure the Police will investigate but come up with the answer that a lot of the twaddle is free speech.

LeninGrad · 12/05/2010 16:09

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TotalChaos · 12/05/2010 16:04

agree with aitch. a lot.

MentalAshtray · 12/05/2010 16:04

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mathanxiety · 12/05/2010 16:04

Isn't it uplifting though to see the number of responses that are contrary to the opinions that certain people hold?

I'm opposed to censorship here, partly because I believe in the power of reason.

2shoes · 12/05/2010 16:03

wannaBe how many times though?
how many times do we have to challenge those views........
MN say this is thier philosophy....
our policy is to keep intervention to a minimum and let the conversation flow. Having said that, we will remove postings that are obscene, contain personal attacks or break the law. Please do bear in mind how difficult this parenting business can be, and if there's one thing all of us could do with, it's some moral support.

they also have a troll/troublemaker policy that I think Aitch posted earlier.

these threads breaks those....
so why are they allowed to stand.
why do people who come on here for moral support and yes fun, having to spend thier time challenging.........trolls?

LeninGrad · 12/05/2010 16:01

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ChickensNeedOpposableThumb · 12/05/2010 16:01

Think Aitch has said everything, tbh.

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TheLadyOfTheGreenKirtle · 12/05/2010 16:00
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Aitch · 12/05/2010 15:56
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TheLadyOfTheGreenKirtle · 12/05/2010 15:56

dammit, scrap wot i just said and pretend i wrote aitch's post

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TheLadyOfTheGreenKirtle · 12/05/2010 15:54

wannabe, thats what happens on the threads. you cant tell us to ignore them/her then say that we need to challenge the broader views.

i feel that something should be done when a particular poster starts the same sorts of threads and repeatedly (despite having several warnings from MNHQ about her posts) posts deliberately inflammatory and offensive statements. surely if a majority of posters find these threads offensive and upsetting, something should be done about them.

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