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Troll hunting

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TheArmadillo · 18/11/2009 19:21

As troll hunting season seems to be upon us once more and MNHQ have tried several times to outline their troll policy over the years I've been here and it has had little affect. Is there a way that troll hunting can be discouraged?

on threads like this where someone name changes to accuse OP of trolling.

This seems wrong because:
a) if the OP is trolling then surely there is no harm caused. They are not asking for people's money or contacting people offline (afaik)

b) if the OP isn't trolling there is a great deal of upset caused to them.

c) the only reason for calling 'troll' seems to be that their posting style seems familiar to one or two mners.

It seems that trolling accusations are now being thrown at people who have been round a while posting, not just newbies.

Also while I appreciate some trolls do cause posters a lot of upset and problems (I have seen a few) these are rare and tend to be more obvious than a thread on a sensitive asking purely for advice and nothing else.

Plus as MNHQ are unlikely to be able to tell if someone is trolling unless extreme and repeated. And even then not 100%

Would it be a good idea to have a policy of deleting posts crying troll? They cause upset and are offensive to those accused at difficult times. Any serious concerns re trolling can still be reported to MNHQ via the report this post function.

It seems that asking people to stop doing it isn't having any affect and I for one think it is damaging MN because it does put people, especially newbies off posting for advice on serious issues.

Anyone else got a view.

OP posts:
daftpunk · 18/11/2009 22:59

ha ha ha

i will reveal all on my last day...

am i real....am i fake...am i journo...?

harleyd · 18/11/2009 22:57

you still being chased with pitchforks punky

daftpunk · 18/11/2009 22:52

deffo LG.....

i watched it.....so obvious...

thanks for gettin back to me on that 2shoes......i still live under my troll cloud....

hope you're ok...haven't seen you for a while...

LeninGrotto · 18/11/2009 22:51

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LeninGrotto · 18/11/2009 22:48

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2shoes · 18/11/2009 22:47

Daftpunk no I know you are a real person, they were..........weird(wannabe knows all)

daftpunk · 18/11/2009 22:46

fuck sorry....

thouht i was on MSN....

daftpunk · 18/11/2009 22:45

Ireland out to a hand ball...

french bastards...

SqueezyIsBackToBlack · 18/11/2009 22:41

Who knows what the answer is? Probably to not give too much of yourself to any given scenario on here and also to take things with a pinch of salt.

It's hard though to watch people being sucked in. As in real life, some people are able to say "eff off" or to disregard things. Others are easily swayed by heavy emotional traumas and get sucked in, particularly if they have been through a similar trauma themselves. We are all not the same where we can easily shrug off all situations and not be affected.

As in real life, I'd stick up for someone being ripped off or being fooled or taken advantage of so I think it is perfectly ok to do the same on here to a sort of lesser level.

BitOfFun · 18/11/2009 22:39

I'm up for being poked with some soft cushions

LeninGrotto · 18/11/2009 22:32

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daftpunk · 18/11/2009 22:24

LG....this is a parenting forum...not the vatican...

theyoungvisiter · 18/11/2009 22:20

but doesn't being mean and suspicious to newcomers sully our good name too?

I'd rather post helpful advice on a troll thread than shout troll on a genuine thread.

LeninGrotto · 18/11/2009 22:17

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daftpunk · 18/11/2009 22:15

people are dishonest in RL....you can be married to someone and find out they've been having an affair for years....that's hard to take....

internet strangers making up bollocks shouldn't worry too many people...

imo..

LeninGrotto · 18/11/2009 22:13

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madoldbat · 18/11/2009 22:12

You know, YouKnow, you're right it is the trolls. What the heck they get out of it is competely beyond me personally but they devalue everything that MN seems to stand for. So are they mainly blokes getting off in some sicko way or women with a munchausen type syndrome? Thankfully they seem relatively rare and some of the netters seem to have an uncanny knack of ferreting them out when they do turn up.I guess it's just experience.

theyoungvisiter · 18/11/2009 22:11

Oh good julliet, I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds it infuriating

The ones I hate are the ones that say "Quick urgent - need a recipe for pastry" or "Need directions to Whipsnade zoo!!!!!" or "When is it safe to give cow's milk?".

Everyone helpfully does the lazy sod's googling for them, and then they never come back to the thread. I don't know what's more annoying - thinking that they've read it and not bothered to thank everyone, or thinking that they haven't even been arsed to read all the helpful responses.

Luckily someone showed me this marvellous site which I shall be making free use of

LeninGrotto · 18/11/2009 22:09

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theyoungvisiter · 18/11/2009 22:08

In fact I am trying to think of any way in which thanking might be considered trollish, I suppose the only thing that might ring alarm bells is that continuous thanking is a way of bumping the thread and keeping it going.

But that's about it really. The other indicators that people cite when calling troll is

  1. posting an enticing OP and then going silent for ages or
  2. posting an enticing op and then drip-feeding information throughout the thread.

So on that basis, you can't win

Juillet · 18/11/2009 22:07

Oh I hate that. Some people do it all the time...'what is the best way to do such and such'...[several helpful responses]'do you do it like this then?'[several more helpful replies] 'I don't know if it would work for me doing it like that' [everyone abandons ungrateful thread starter to find their own sodding way to do it then]

theyoungvisiter · 18/11/2009 22:04

I don't think thanking is bad! I always do it.

In fact it peeves me right off when someone posts a peremptory request for specific information/advice and then buggers off without thanking any of the posters.

I have been known to post "you're welcome " on occasion.

madoldbat · 18/11/2009 22:02

Well my ma brought me up proper so I will defend my right to say thank you ad nauseum.
OMG Thanks and verbose, definitely a troll

daftpunk · 18/11/2009 22:00

oh no 2shoes.....was it me...?

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