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Missing pages - can YOU help us track them down?

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JustineMumsnet · 16/11/2009 21:11

So, ever since BigTech made his new releases (which incidentally still have a few wee glitches to sort, before you shout) we've noticed that folks are clicking less on all the Talk topic home pages eg this one. In fact you are collectively clicking on those roughly half as much as you used to and we're completely stymied as to why. Don't spose any bright spark out there has any ideas about what might have changed?

(There's a pack of Christmas cards (or three) by way of reward for anyone whose information leads to the discovery of our lost pages...)

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morningpaper · 17/11/2009 10:05

UM

is there any indication of pathways changing or can you not track in that much detail?

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YetMoreTech · 17/11/2009 10:02

Thanks for all the feedback.

I'm afraid MP doesn't get the cards after all though, despite it being the best guess yet. It is true that "www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable" and "www.mumsnet.com/Talk/2724" both lead to the same place. And it might even be the case that due to recent changes that the numeric form of the link is being used. However, this doesn't account for the difference. The increase in use of the latter version of the URL is a few hundred, not the many thousands that have been lost.

It's definitely nothing to do with caching. It could be a measurement issue, but we've tested that and can find no evidence of it. We've already replaced the calls to Google Analytics with calls elsewhere and tracked them and we get precisely the right number, every single time.

I don't think it's that things take longer than they used to - the average time spent on the site hasn't changed. Nor have the number of visitors, or indeed, the number of unique page views.

It's not a function of something that has been changed then broken and fixed either. We have consistently seen it since the big changes a couple of weeks ago.

Any more guesses are welcome!

morningpaper · 17/11/2009 09:55

DOH is that the prize? I don't really need the cards, I just want praise and admiration

or some of those short-dated biscuits

whomovedmychocolate · 17/11/2009 09:23

Yes Justine, send MP the cards I still have a drawerful of the fecking things

Actually, I did have a similar problem when I rolled out advanced search on another site - turned out to be a caching issue, to save time searches which had previously been run were reserved from the cache, and subsequent click throughs no counted.

IIRC it self corrected when the server had done all search permutations. But having no idea how you do search at mn I can't say if this is the prob.

BecauseImWorthIt · 17/11/2009 08:39

I know where the missing pages are. They're gradually escaping through the rogue spaces on the page.

I did alert Big Tech to this issue, but all he did was laugh.

So I did tell you. Ner.

morningpaper · 17/11/2009 08:25

whomovedmychocolate I think you might be on to something with search - if you click on topic from search results page you get a talk topic number - rather than name - hmm will check that out with Techs...

ME IT WAS ME I SAID THAT IT WAS ME

DutchOma · 17/11/2009 07:53

Everything takes so much more time since the changes, I get fed up when I've checked "Threads I'm on" I usedto check arts and crafts and some of the parenting threads, I can't be bothered now it all takes so much more time.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 17/11/2009 00:15

heh heh

tis deep within the recesses of the maw of death garage so nah

WilfSell · 17/11/2009 00:12

[Have you tried the Slendertone on yer face yet? ]

BoysAreLikeDogs · 17/11/2009 00:07

Wilf I have no idea what this entire thread is about but I would like to let you know that I admired the nonchalant use of prolly in your post there

WilfSell · 17/11/2009 00:04

Prolly irrelevant but...

...last week, when the Bombs went off in BigTech's cupboard, I posted that the thread links and topic links were As One on Active Convos. Since I sometimes use AC to find and click through to Topic lists, a proportion of my own MNing can be explained this way, and no doubt lots of other people's. It was rapidly corrected but this could explain the lack of clicks onto topic titles, no?

It will depend on what period you are looking at your analytics?

Or has this been said already?

ZippysMum · 16/11/2009 23:58

Justine and Big Tech,

sorry aobut your missing pages.

I'm still having trouble with 'search'.

When I search, it shows all the threads with terms that match my search, but when I click the thread I want it takes me to the first page of the topic, not to the thread I've requested.

It's driving me mad.....

gigglewitch · 16/11/2009 23:53

my geek dh said same, so I didn't try cutting out the red-herring-w's, site has speeded up considerably regardless.
Go on, you can tell us, whose advert was it

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YetMoreTech · 16/11/2009 23:50

This whole 'www' or not thing is a complete red herring. The site has speeded up because the ad problem that was slowing it down has been fixed. Promise and everything. Go back to trying both and you'll see each are equally fast.

gigglewitch · 16/11/2009 23:46

roffle at all this lot

my page has weeny teeny writing on it too. And I'm long sighted, so ner

LeninGrotto · 16/11/2009 23:40

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nannynick · 16/11/2009 23:35

Another Google fan here...

But Google may be part of the problem actually... as I use Google Chrome and it remembers which tabs I last closed, so when reopening the browser, I'm a click away from going back to where I was, rather than navigating through the site.

Is Google Analytics showing any change in percentage of users of particular browsers... maybe more people have realised they don't need to use IE

JesusChristOtterStar · 16/11/2009 23:28

wow thanks for the 'no www ' tip ... much better now

MistletoeNoelPresents · 16/11/2009 23:24

Oops, meant to say Thank You Lenin.

BoysAreLikeDogs · 16/11/2009 23:24

I don't know whatchoo lot are on about

Justine can you explain in teeny tiny words what you are asking

I am v fick wrt techy stuff

(boys being wet at night/behavioural ishoos in 3 yr olds/why middle aged wimmin shouldn't wear brown is more my bag)

TVM

MistletoeNoelPresents · 16/11/2009 23:23

I have to say since removing www it is loading so much quicker, really BigTech it is, i was begining to dispair at the time it took for pages/threads/topics to open.

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JustineMumsnet · 16/11/2009 23:10

Ok we'll get someone special just for our older laydees Maliboo - more tomorrow I promise.

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MalibooStacey · 16/11/2009 23:07

oh justine you KNOW i am to old and past it to give a monekys gonad abotu breastfeeding.

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JustineMumsnet · 16/11/2009 23:06

So I see Maliboo! Erm she'll be gawn by end of month and we've already told the BBC lot what you think of them - so hopefully they won't ever think of sending them our way again is all I can say.
In the meantime can we appease you with Gabrielle Palmer?

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ledodgyfireworksingedmyeyebrow · 16/11/2009 23:05

Oh is that why? Thanks I thought I was going mad.

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