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Daily Mail thread 5

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madameDefarge · 05/09/2009 21:06

and a sticky? pretty please?

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brokenspacebar · 05/09/2009 23:23

where is the poll?

bibbitybobbityhat · 05/09/2009 23:16

lurk

JustineMumsnet · 05/09/2009 23:14

Evening all.
Just looking in and thought I'd respond to Oops' point.
Our policy wrt to mass deletions generally is to ask if there are particular posts that are problematic rather than deleting the whole lot. This has always been our policy because mass deletions can leaving gaping holes on the boards, which can make it very difficult to follow past threads - often full of good advice and well worth keeping. One of the bugbears of more than a few oldies is newbies constantly asking the same questions and not using search - well search has to work for that to happen properly and it won't if there are loads of gaps in threads.

Of course if there are circumstances where someone feels very threatened, by an ex-partner for example we are always happy to help and indeed if someone comes back to us and says look - this is seriously effecting my well-being - as I think you did - we will of course delete everything - we're here to make people's lives easier.

In by far the majority of cases, though, the member is happy to report the posts that are or could be problematic and we delete them as quickly as possible.

I wasn't here for much of the correspondence you mention Oops and I haven't read it but I'd be very surprised if the way we handled it differed markedly from what I've just outlined and I think this is a sensible policy that works for the community in general. Clearly you feel let down, however, and I'm sorry I'm sorry you've been upset.

I strongly disagree that it would be better if folks could edit their own posts (as Aitch suggests). That would mean folks could re-write history, which would be very confusing and potentially explosive all round.

(Webdude very quickly in response to an earlier point of yours - slight misunderstanding I think - when I said "Oops the poll is still open" in the earlier thread I was talking to Oops (who thought the poll had shut), not saying "by jimmeny the poll is still open iyswim". Probably my bad grammar.)

oopsagainandagain · 05/09/2009 23:09

They will delete individual posts and I've had a few deleted prior to this.
I am aware that some people have had their request denied on individual posts.

Some posters have had all of their history deleted prior to this, and others were denied that when asked.

I begged and begged for 4 days to have my history deleted, to save me ahving to go through and relive all of the stuff that was behind me as a person.

Crapweasel · 05/09/2009 23:07

Oops, I lost track of the DM thread around v.3 so not sure about the indiginous mammal comment. Not sure what that's all about but just to say that I'm a completely innocent weasel - was just messing about re the precis thing

oopsagainandagain · 05/09/2009 23:01

i've been banging on about this for weeks now and MN have given us no decision.

I'm bored of it quite frankly.

I get what i needed done after having a very distressing time.
I hope MNHQ have reaslised that this is not the best way to help people who hav used their site over the years.
They have remained silent about the archives and how they amy be plundered and what might happen to old posts.
To me, this is more improtant than if the DM can have some copy and who will wirte it if it is in house....

And shame on the people who were scathing to me about it on here.

And I've always posted under my own name unless it was something distressing to me or for a laugh.

madameDefarge · 05/09/2009 22:36

Thinking about the whole archive thing, god knows there are enough repeats going on, why keep stuff if people want to delete?

I do think MN should think about acceding to all requests for deletions. There is enough guff on here to fill in the blanks for using for new MN publications. Otherwise its just keeping threads for the sake of it. Maybe everything should be like chat, only around for 90 days.

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AitchwonderswhoFruitCrumbleis · 05/09/2009 22:25

oops, sweetheart, i'm not sure how much clearer i can be, i was only talking to people using a new name. you're not, are you? you're oops. i think everyone should be free to say what they want, but i just think it's more honest to do it up front and using a name that you will be recognised with.
sorry to hear you've had a rough time with MNHQ, i personally think that we should be able to edit our posts Just Because We Want To, without having to ask MNHQ as if we're naughty schoolchildren.

wotzyRegisteredTM · 05/09/2009 21:51

oopsagainandagain I would hope that MNHQ would remove such a request for whatever reason.

It makes sense.

I'm not sure I like the ethos of MN, ATM. But I am glad I have taken part, because my postings have changed since joining, knowing what I now know about copyright and who owns what and who can publish what. I can also advise my children about forums and how to post and what to say and what not to say and what to expect.

wotzyRegisteredTM · 05/09/2009 21:47

Sorry that was meant to be Ben Elton.

madameDefarge · 05/09/2009 21:46

I suppose we wait for the result of the poll.

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madameDefarge · 05/09/2009 21:45

oops. I'm so sorry all of this has caused you such unhappiness. Its not fair.

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wotzyRegisteredTM · 05/09/2009 21:42

Reminded of Ben Faith, Blind Faith. Where do we go from here?

oopsagainandagain · 05/09/2009 21:40

Weasel being another indiginous mammal

I am aware that I was rude about MP earlier, I've apologised.

And I'm cross with MN, and do you know what, I'm still cross with MN.

PW and Aitch... I am only human and I do bear a grudge.

I sepnt 4 traumatic days going through ALL of my old posts regarding some very veyr awful things that happened in my life and i'd posted on here.
I accept now that it was foolish of me to poast about such topics.... but we all learn our lesson, some sooner, some later.

I was told that I was paranoid and I do remember being quite hurt by an number of comments- and nobdy thus far has apologised to me

And I spent 2 nights in tears reliving cdertain things that happened in my life and i'd posted on here.

MN deleted it post by post and refused for 4 days to just take all of my history and make it easy on me.

I was up late at night and totally distraught.
And they knew it.

And they just kept asking me to wait until they had made a decision on whehter or not they felt I had a case for deleting my past history en masse.

I felt I did as it was affecting me mentally- and was incredibly uspetting.
Not jsut your usual upset, i was a nervous wreck. And i told them this.......

I can show you our correspondence if you like....but i shan't on here...

I am very very cross tbh.
and I am also cross that you think some people bear a petty grudge and are being mean.

I'm hurt and feel very let down on a personal level.
I'm sorry if MP felt attacked by me, but at this point I apologised to her as I am actually a very very reasoble person.

I have recieved no apology for rudenss that was aimed at me (expcet from one person who knows who she is!).

AitchwonderswhoFruitCrumbleis · 05/09/2009 21:25
madameDefarge · 05/09/2009 21:21

Crapweasel. aaaaggghhhh!

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MoochieHomma · 05/09/2009 21:11

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Crapweasel · 05/09/2009 21:08

Thread 5? FIVE?

I suppose it's a bit late to ask for a precis?

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