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We're looking for a Mumsnetter to represent us at a 'News Comment Special' about MPs' expenses

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GeraldineMumsnet · 15/05/2009 16:03

Editorial Intelligence in association with Sky News are inviting a Mumsnetter to attend a panel and group discussion, which will be podcast.

Here's a pdf of the invite so you can see the date/location/panel etc (which includes Helena Kennedy, Norman Baker and Derek Wyatt).

Please throw your names/nominations into the hat. We'd want whoever goes to blog or twitter, or something suitably modern, about the proceedings. It's next Wed, so it needs to be decided fairly swiftly.

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policywonk · 16/05/2009 20:52

There's going to be a demo in Westminster on Wednesday (this is taken from the Liberal Conspiracy site):

WE, THE PEOPLE, DEMAND THE DISSOLUTION OF PARLIAMENT.
DEMONSTRATION. HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT.
WEDNESDAY 20th MAY. 12 Noon till 2PM

Mrs Allison Edwards a housewife from Telford, Shropshire, mother of a severely autistic 12 year old son, furious about the battles for resources she has endured for years, has decided to act. She has been granted permission by police to hold a demonstration outside the Houses of Parliament on Wednesday 20th May, from 12-2pm during PMQ?s to call for Parliament to be dissolved.

?We need a public demonstration declaring ?no confidence? in this Parliament the present politicians will never recognise the true impact the behaviour of some MP?s over expenses has had upon us all?.

The trust is gone!

All are welcome to join in a peaceful demonstration of people power.
Contact : Mrs Allison Edwards Email address: [email protected]

ilovemydogandMrObama · 16/05/2009 20:30

Not two homes, but jobs requiring one to stay away from home on a regular basis (at the same place, as opposed to transport workers where they could end up anywhere). Trade union reps at a national level for instance. Unions usually have a cap on living expenses, and they are published annually.

Robespierre · 16/05/2009 20:08

Are there other, comparable, jobs for which two homes are arguably necessary? What expenses arrangements do they have to offset the costs of extra household. I.e. support for second household ok in principle, but what precedents are there for establishing reasonable limits?

Agree artichoke. Payment of interest is presumably to ensure MPs not out of pocket -- that they build up an asset without additional cost of interest and can offset its cost entirely though eventual sale. If sold at profit this rationale breaks down.

policywonk · 16/05/2009 20:03

No no, I've heard nothing!

Agree that the whole second-home allowance thing needs a major overhaul though.

It went well thanks MT (at least I thought so ) - there are a couple of threads in Site Stuff from April 1 and 2 that give the low-down.

artichokes · 16/05/2009 20:00

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Robespierre · 16/05/2009 19:59

Yes, I was v disappointed in Tam.

Vittoria · 16/05/2009 19:57

Hi PW, how did your other gig go? I missed the memo!

policywonk · 16/05/2009 19:33

I am disappointed in Tam Dalyell, thought he had more decency than that.

Agree with edam about Tory MPs who've built careers by displaying their contempt for 'benefits claimants'. They'd better not have the gall to try that one again.

ilovemydogandMrObama · 16/05/2009 19:27

Would Mumsnet invite Heather Brooke for a webchat? Please?

LeninGrad · 16/05/2009 14:04

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Quattrocento · 16/05/2009 12:27

For employees, the definition of expenses in the taxes act is that expenses should be incurred "wholly, exclusively and necessarily". So furnishings etc would fail to meet this definition. It's a well-known standard that is universally applied.

OlympedeGouges · 16/05/2009 12:24

oh bugger just realised Lupus said she can't do it. Robes, MT [vittoria] or pw would all be wonderful [though i know you haven't volunteered Robes]

justaboutspringtime · 16/05/2009 12:20

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Quattrocento · 16/05/2009 12:09

I think it would be helpful if there were proper controls on MPs expenses so that they represent expenses in the normal sense of the word

edam · 16/05/2009 11:46

I wonder if there's any correlation between the worst MPs with their snouts in the trough and those who rant about benefits claimants being on the take? Or who vote against increases in benefits, or pensions (not sure there's ever been a vote but if there has...)?

My MP is Peter Lilley. He's one of those who makes the most money from the second homes allowance, despite representing a commuter seat 25 minutes from London on the train.

Yet he slagged off people on benefits and single mothers and various other disadvantaged people when he was a minister under Thatcher - made an infamous speech to the Tory conference about having a little list (of poor people who would be targetted).

I bet the Tories who claimed for moat-cleaning and chandeliers fall into this category... that's not to excuse MPs from other parties but would be interesting to see.

ilovemydogandMrObama · 16/05/2009 11:25

Has policy been confirmed yet?

Mentioned on another thread re: the American journalist and her campaign. Didn't realize her initial application was in 2004 (and Tony Blair shredded his expenses in 2005 )

Needless to say, she didn't get much support.

american and foi

OlympedeGouges · 16/05/2009 11:13

It would also prove we have more than one searingly intelligent brain on our forum...

OlympedeGouges · 16/05/2009 11:12

I think Lupus would be excellent. As would pw. But maybe in the interest of fairness it should be Lupus?

Vittoria · 16/05/2009 08:36

Actually - not a hope in hells chance, and not challenge to you personally PW - but I'd like to go (but also could only if expenses were paid, which makes it even more unlikely I know.

It's Monkeytrousers BTW.

LeninGrad · 16/05/2009 08:19

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Robespierre · 16/05/2009 08:15

It's astoniushing. And we owe a lot to an independent woman journo who was writing a book on the Freeedom of Info act and decided to try a few requests under the act to look into aspects of Parliament. She found her requests being oddly blocked and so fought for 5 yrs to get expenses revealed. And then the gun was jumped when the info was leaked in advance of being made officially available. The Speaker et al fought at every turn to keep it hidden.

LeninGrad · 16/05/2009 08:15

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Robespierre · 16/05/2009 08:05

CPS I mean

Robespierre · 16/05/2009 08:05

I was really disappoointed in Kaufmann with his rug and £8000(!!!!) telly. I thought he was an honourable bloke.

And I'm v glad to hear that CPP announcement.

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