Please or to access all these features

Site stuff

Join our Innovation Panel to try new features early and help make Mumsnet better.

YOUR OPINIONS NEEDED!!!

57 replies

blinks · 05/05/2009 22:01

Following on from the ridiculous Madeleine McCann thread, I need opinions and feedback on an idea for MNHQ.

I propose that Mumsnet somehow incorporates a topic or section that raises awareness of UK's missing children and young people. It could also be a place that highlights prevention strategies and general child safety. A different missing child could also be highlighted in each Mumsnet newsletter...

It would be brilliant to turn all of the negativity surrounding the issue into something positive in time for INTERNATIONAL MISSING CHILDREN'S DAY on the 25th May 2009.

It is vital, if this is to go ahead and become a reality, that as many mumsnetters as possible get behind it and either come up with some suggestions and feedback or get in touch with MNHQ yourselves to push it forward. It would be important to keep weird and unwanted attention away from such a section so that's a priority for MNHQ.

As parents wouldn't it be satisfying to offer a platform for those desparately seeking their lost children? If you think about how many members and lurkers there are, combined with the press attention Mumsnet gets- that's a pretty powerful force to make a bit of a difference rather than alot of hot air.

I'll post this in a few sections to see what people think.

-----------
here's a link to missingkids.co.uk where there's info about International Missing Children's Day

OP posts:
KingCanuteIAm · 06/05/2009 09:30

VOTE: Yes, I think it is a good idea.

KingCanuteIAm · 06/05/2009 09:29

I am torn between thinking people love a good argument discussion too much to resist and people have enough common decency to respect an area like this.

TBH though, much as I love my rose-tinted glasses, I suspect some people would end up getting drawn into discussions that are inappropriate at best.

(When I say some I mean in that some would some wouldn't , I am not indicating that I think particular posters are more likely to do this)

blinks · 06/05/2009 09:26

good points everyone.

i was hoping that it could feature somewhere on Talk as that gets lots of traffic.

MNHQ would be best placed to decide whether it's feasible to work through at outside organisation (as I mentioned, Missing Kids isn't a charitable organisation- it is run by the Police) in order to feature validated appeals. I don't see why they wouldn't be keen to have another platform to raise awareness though and have often seen appeals featured in papers like Metro and magazines.

I think the newsletters would be a good place to feature appeals as they reach everyone.

I reckon child safety is a good idea for a topic generally which could incapsulate any situation where a child is at risk or potential risk.

Stranger danger IS important but it's only one aspect of child safety- There are many threads within Relationships where children are being exposed to abuse. There are also issues concerning safety around the house and when travelling/road safety. Bullying at school would surely fall within this category.

It would be a good place to feature all of the links/contact details that parents may need for reference, eg Women's Aid, NSPCC, Save The Children (they have lots of interesting stuff on their website about child labour and more international issues), The Children's Society etc

Basically, MNTowers would like to know if people think it's a good idea... It obviously has some issues surrounding it that would need to be looked at but it's something that's missing from Mumsnet that would be beneficial to many people.

With it being International Missing Children's Day soon and also in June it's CHILD SAFETY WEEK (22nd-28th), it's good timing to set something up.

OP posts:
mamadiva · 06/05/2009 09:00

Very good point Lenin, I thought the plans for amber alert would already be in place by now?!

Surely it would'nt though if it was stated that the topic was not for speculation and not for random accusations or arguments it was to provide information regarding the safety of missing children and parents.

LeninGrad · 06/05/2009 08:53

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

mamadiva · 06/05/2009 08:29

Blinks I reckon it would be a good idea!!!

Are you trying to get a topic devoted to it or just a few threads set up in chat or other?

A 'Missing appeal' topic may be good, but again people would just need to resist the temptation to post their opinions on it and stick to the appeal itself and updates, extra links to new news stories about that person and for example yesterday on the Andrew Gosden thread someone had added information from a blog the father has been doing like that.

As long as it is verified information and not just gossip from the girls at work then things should be fine.

Anything out of order etc can be deleted through reporting so I reckon it should be fine

I will stop wittering now feel as though I am making no sense now... LOL.

KingCanuteIAm · 06/05/2009 07:58

You may be right Fredworm, I don't pretend to be an expert by any stretch!

TBH though I find that any posts about things like stranger danger tend to get jumped on hard by people telling everyone that the risk is so low why bother and going on about the daily mail being the source of unrealistic panic etc. None of which is particularly helpful to a parent wanting advice!

I am not sure that a talk topic would help that as such, but it may, especially if it had things like actual statistical information to link to and, for example, the NSPCCs (or other appropriate reputable organisation) advice on how to make children aware and safe.

We have many sections on here that are less used and overlap, for example Pets, The Tack Room, Chicken Keepers, Livestock but are still appreciated very much by those that use them

FredWorm · 06/05/2009 07:45

But we oughtn't to have a separate thread for stranger-danger and the like. That is adequately covered in parenting; teenagers; etc. It would just encourage the unrealistic over-perception of risk.

So I'm not sure that I understand the need for a talk topic.

KingCanuteIAm · 06/05/2009 07:33

I think that was the point about having a "closed" thread, so it is standard MN format but is "full" after just one post IYSWIM?

The point about it being on a talk section is that people could also use the section (although not those threads) to discuss safety measures, ways to introduce stranger danger to a young child and ways to convince your 13yo that, no matter how bad life gets they should always ring home just to say they are ok, and such like things that can get jumped on in other parts of the site.

Thinking about it, I suppose if the appeal threads are closed (except for updates) The area may not need extra moderation, I suppose the people on it are likely to be extra hot on anything that could cause offence or upset in any case aren't they?

FredWorm · 06/05/2009 07:22

i.e. allowing missing-child organisations to advertise their own, validated appeals.

FredWorm · 06/05/2009 07:20

I understand. That wd be awful. Perhaps free advertising space for these appeals would be better. After all, there is no extra value in having them on a talk thread, is there? If anyone has any information they would contact the organisation/police rather than post.

KingCanuteIAm · 06/05/2009 07:07

Fredworm, allowing appeals to be posted freely (IMHO) leaves MN open to sick sad individuals posting fake appeals for attention/money/kicks. If MN did have a section like this it would be pretty terrible for all concerned if there was any opportunity for trolling. I think that is the reason people are saying the appeals should be verified in some way, perhaps by linking to the Missing Kids site, unless you can think of a better way this could be done?

FredWorm · 06/05/2009 06:36

Of course it's great if MN can help with publicity in cases of missing children. Like the Andrew Gosden threads.

BUT I absolutely would NOT like anything other than a perfectly standard topic operating the normal way.Checks and validations from other organisations? Different levels of moderation? links back to organisations instead of ordinary comments? If it can't be done as a standard topic it oughtn't to be done on MN. There are MANY equally good causes and it would be arbitrary to give such distinctive treatment to one of them.

Why not just publicise International Missing Child day on the homepage, and perhaps through a webchat, and perhaps adding a standard topic for appeals?

gibbberish · 06/05/2009 00:42

Blinks this is such a good idea. Surely mners would respect the need for such a forum and allow it to be used for the good it can do, thereby reducing the need for moderators? However, maybe I am overly optimistic.

We can all, as parents, appreciate the horror it must be to lose a child. Surely any parent would want to support any help that could be given to anyone in this situation. I for one, fully support your suggestion.

MintChocAddict · 06/05/2009 00:32

Good idea Blinks. Like the suggestion of posting a link straight back to the organisation rather than an open forum. Would help keep the focus on the subject matter.

blinks · 06/05/2009 00:11

i did, in 'other subjects' but directed them to here. from there.

even i'm confused now...

OP posts:
KingCanuteIAm · 05/05/2009 23:15

Oh right, just you said in your op you were posting in other sections. Just me being confused again!

blinks · 05/05/2009 23:02

i'm trying to keep everyone on this thread KingCanuteIAm, so asked people to post here.

MNHQ has asked for your opinions after i approached them today, so it would be best if they're all together in one place.

OP posts:
blinks · 05/05/2009 23:00

EXACTLY, 2shoes.

he looks so young and vulnerable.

OP posts:
KingCanuteIAm · 05/05/2009 22:57

Well, I think it sounds like a great idea.

Does anyone else have any thoughts? Can you link the other threads you posted?

2shoes · 05/05/2009 22:57

good Idea
if it gets publicity for andrew gosden

blinks · 05/05/2009 22:53

OK, MissingKids.co.uk is run by the Missing Person's Bureau which is a branch of the Police.

So, not a charitable organisation.

There are only 25 or so kids featured on the Missing Kids website so we're not talking about something enormous...

OP posts:
KingCanuteIAm · 05/05/2009 22:38

Sorry X posts!

Yes you are right, it just seems that the merest hint of someone suggesting that a child could be snatched or hurt by a stranger brings out the polar opposites in some people.

KingCanuteIAm · 05/05/2009 22:36

Fair point but, what about missing mothers (for example)? I am not trying to be difficult just pre-empt some of the things that may come up.

I agree that it would work best for children only. It would help if it was not a charitable organisation, I suppose, although I don't think that would be the end of the world in itself. It would just mean it would need more careful thought.

blinks · 05/05/2009 22:35

'Safety ideas could do with lower moderation I suppose, although something like that can often decend into a row between the "bubblewrap" crowd and the "chuck em out at 18 mnth" crowd'

surely that's like most subjects on MN? LOL

OP posts: