Mumsnet - please can you sort out all the Jade posts?

could someone please tell me how you can ignore the jade stuff, it is on the news, GB and the archbishop are making comments, all the papers are going on about it......it is everywhere

lol at 'tough luck lady' but yes, dittany, i do think that you're having trouble ignoring things that you find distasteful right now, and indeed are doing quite a bit of posturing yourself. surely you're as capable of pressing 'hide' on this as the rest of us?

georgimama I think you have a point. no one can controll a thread.
yesterday I started one asking a question about ema, rather than answer the question people just posted about their thoughts on ema.
I can't tell them not to, so I just have to go with it.
why should these threads be any different?
personally apart from aggreeing with someone I left the sad thread alone yesterday.

Dittany, I am thoroughly tired of your attempts to regulate what other people post about, with regard to a whole range of topics. You choose to ignore things that you find distasteful, bully for you.

I find it interesting to try to analyse my reactions to the world around me, and to understand why other people may respond differently. I am allowed to do that. I see from your other contributions on this subject that you consider you should have the right to dictate what goes on a thread and what doesn't, but tough luck lady, if you want that kind of control, start your own forum.

The only person trying to start a fight as far as I can see is you. We were having a civilised discussion.

Oh Wannabe - people who slow down at accidents really annoy me. I hate it. It's pointless. A work mate of mine deliberately walked the long way from the work car-park the other day so she could 'see the accident' that had just happened. I think that's just terrible but a lot of people do it.

and yet we all have a fascination with the plight of other people. How many people slow down past a car accident and have a look, or watch documentaries about how gruesome murders are solved, or about someone's battle with life-changing surgery or a terminal illness.. In most cases there is a suffering person in the middle of it all, and yet we still have a morbid fascination with it.

No one is going to admit that they are "getting off" on reading all the details in OK etc though are they? We know that a significant proportion are, and that's what makes us feel ick about it all. Try explaining that on a Jade hagiography thread, though.

ah - I used teh word devastated but I wasn't suggesting anyone should and can't see why anyone would think I was!

I was actually expecting someone to say that this isn't a film, that this is really happening. But I know that it happens to people all over the world all the time. I have no right to be more upset about Jade (as no personal involvement) than any of those other people.

who has introduced the word devastated into all this?

actually, gm, i don't think i'd find it a patch as icky if more people admitted that it was catharsis, and that they were at some level getting off on it. i mean, i've been reading a lot of the stories on her health, at some level it's been entertainment, which i feel distinctly queasy about.

I can't spell .

Good old Wiki explains it far better than I ever could

The process you are referring to is called cartharsis, Stealth, a natural and normal thing - especially when watching a weepy film which we do by choice and "enjoy" the sad feelings - but taken to the levels we have seen with Diana/Jade it makes me feel decidedly icky.

oh yes, definitely. but it was also exploited to rehabiitate her after the (untrue) 'jordan's drug-taking injured her unborn baby' stories, well after they'd have known that she wasn't in danger.

I'm not devestated by it. A few years ago I would barely have noticed. Since recently becoming a mum though it's brought the reality of the fact that we're all going to die hoe to me (suppose before that I was still thinking like an invicible teenager). Tomorrow it could be someone I love, or me and then DS would be left without a mother. It's also made me super vigilant about any signs of 'getting old' in my parents and PILS (who are in their 50s, and fit and healthy ). So I suppose although I can't say that I am personally upset, I do find it sad, and the fact everyone knew it was coming just helped to build up the emotions surrounding it - like watching a really weepy film (and yes I know how callous that sounds).
So, in brief, I agree with you wannabe!

ah right. sounds minor but I can imagine it's a huge shock to have the c word used about you or someone you love, even if it is minor.
Did anyone know Pete Burns is critically ill, apparently? Or have I missed all those threads?

why would you be devastated by something that hasn't affected you personally though?

I really can't understand this expectation that people will/are/should be devastated. I'm not devastated, I didn't even know the woman. It's sad for her children and the family she's left behind, but I don't think that me personally not being sad about it makes me some kind of unfeeling monster.

i think it was after it was revealed she'd made a man out of gareth gates while pg. headlines were 'jordan's got cancer/i'll beat this for harvey etcetc' and it was a wee growth on her pinkie.

what's this about Jordan's finger cancer? Never even heard of that one!

Indeed, the on-camera notification of the diagnosis was absolutely sick.

I would put money on there being celebs who have made up illnesses in order to generate themselves a bit of publicity.

me too, wotu. you are Not Mad.