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A few notes on the new look and functions

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YetMoreTech · 30/01/2009 09:25

There are still a few problems with using the various "Mumsnet Classic" options. However, for a lot of people matters are significantly improved if they press Refresh in their browse. If you're using Firefox, try pressing Shift+Refresh. At about 4:30am this morning after many hours of work, that made the classic option work well. Only a couple of minor layout issues remained.

Text is not meant to be squished, you're not supposed to have to scroll down through acres of whitespace. We'll definitely fix these issues.

I've no idea why people are finding text too tiny; the font size hasn't changed intentionally, so if it is tiny for you it's either a need to press refresh (to reload the style sheet, in tech speak) or a problem that will be fixed.

Threads I'm On and Threads I'm Watching should behave in the way they always did - they do for me. Let us know the specifics of problems you have with them and we'll address them.

We know about the problem of seeing "hide hide hide" across the top of the page. If you go in to customise (which my huge ENGLISH dictionary lists as being able to be spelled either customise OR customize) you can turn off showing of the Hide option which is a workaround for this problem. We'll fix it properly soon.

The ads have neither changed size nor increased in number.

Remember: Press REFRESH (and try SHIFT+REFRESH) a couple of times. It might help a lot.

For those having problems we do apologise and will sort it all as soon as we can. For those that hate it, perhaps you'll get used to it after a while and we'll improve the classic options (though I am using them now and they're working fine).

Oh and for the 2 of you that said thanks for all the hard work: thanks! It has taken over a dozen people a lot of hard work. We had to release it in a hurry and it's not perfect, but we'll get there.

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SoupDragon · 01/02/2009 16:47

Where is the time 12 hours behind?

SoupDragon · 01/02/2009 16:46

It was pushed to one side for a short time yesterday and a lot of people complained

You have to admit, MNHQ do try to please everyone. Most websites wouldn't listen at all I suspect.

Ponders · 01/02/2009 16:31

In fact the width of the posts at the top of the screen alongside the square ads is perfect!

Then you could have lots of useful home-page type pieces, or more ads (quiet, immobile ones preferably ) down the RH side of the page?

Ponders · 01/02/2009 16:28

Well it is true that none of the media sites do (not the ones I've checked out today anyway) but as I believe has already been pointed out, their "full-width" is never more than about half the screen anyway, & much less in some cases.

If your full-width was cut to, say, 2/3 of what it is now, & pushed to one side instead of centred, then I would be quite happy

OhYouBadBadKitten · 01/02/2009 16:24

Thanks YMT yes it is set that way for my vision. Its not ideal but its not exactly a hardship. Many thanks for your detailed response

Buckets · 01/02/2009 16:23

I find the thread titles difficult to read in each forum contents page. Think it's the thinness of the font combined with the pale blue - bold would be much clearer.

MNHQ
YetMoreTech · 01/02/2009 16:22

Ponders, I am not saying we can't but it was a conscious and carefully considered decision to move away from it. A lot of people don't like it and most websites don't do it these days.

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Ponders · 01/02/2009 16:20

YMT, can we not go back to having wraparound text when we narrow our pages? I have problems reading a full-width line

MNHQ
YetMoreTech · 01/02/2009 16:18

typogrelf, thanks for your screen shots.

I do understand what you mean. The problem we have is that a lot of people like an uninterrupted "right across the page" look. The BBC example you've sent uses a narrower than full page centre column. One line of their text is:

"The Tories said they did not back the strikes either but said My Brown's 2007"

whereas a full line of our text would be something like this:

"There are still a few problems with using the various "Mumsnet Classic" options. However, for a lot of people matters are significantly improved"

If we only displayed as much text as the BBC site does then of course we could allow for more zooming before scrolling. But a lot of people would complain about that.

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ChasingSquirrels · 01/02/2009 16:14

have you got the time being 12hrs behind on your list?

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YetMoreTech · 01/02/2009 16:12

OhYouBadBadKitten,

Thanks for the screen shot. I assume you set the minimum font size to 20 for reasons related to your vision, rather than just aesthetics?

It's really difficult to design things so that they work well when the settings we've chosen are overridden locally, as is this the case of your setting a minimum font size. For example, certain titles are chosen because they fit in a space without wrapping around on to a second line - when these are shown in a size significantly bigger than we envisaged it causes lots of problems.

The issue with the screenshot you sent is that the contents of the pale blue header bar can't fit in the available space when the font size is increased, so they get pushed down until they can "get" the full of width of the page to display themselves. I'm not sure how we're going to solve that to be honest. I can see it's not ideal for you but are you able to live with it? If you simple hit the space bar you'll be taken down a screenfull's worth of content, so you can start reading the thread proper very quickly and easily.

I'm sorry it's not better news. If you're still having problems once we've ironed out some other things then we can have another look at it.

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Ponders · 01/02/2009 16:05

Are we going to get threads we've already looked at purpled again - is that in hand?

Monkeytrousers · 01/02/2009 15:08

Okay. I'll relax a little. I've years of essay notes in that little cache

SoupDragon · 01/02/2009 15:07

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SoupDragon · 01/02/2009 15:06

It's on the To Do list, MT!

Ah, I see Bad Kitten - the font size isn't a problem for me anyway so I wouldn't have noticed. I've been looking at my screen thinking "but it looks fine..."

Monkeytrousers · 01/02/2009 15:02

OMG, I HAVE LOST ALL MY WATCHED THREADS WITH THE NEW LOOK? I HAVE BEEN KEEPING SOME OF THEM FOR YEARS TO REFERENCE. HOW CAN I GET THEM BACK??? PLEASE TELL ME I CAN GET THEM BACK!?

typogrelf · 01/02/2009 15:01

Where do you email screenshots to? The contact us link at the bottom doesn't work by the way - goes to an 'In development' page.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 01/02/2009 15:00

Soupdragon - in order to view many websites including mn I have to set the minimum font size to 20.
Tis under Tools->options->Fonts&colours->Advanced->minimum font size

The default is none but I can't read the little writing if its none. If I do set it none I don't have the annoying big block of nothing at the start of every thread and the website arranges itself neatly.

SoupDragon · 01/02/2009 14:50

What is the Firefox3 minimum font problem? I have FF3 and can't see anything wrong.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 01/02/2009 14:24

Yetmoretech - have sent you a screenshot of the firefox 3 minimum font problem.

policywonk · 01/02/2009 14:23

Durr, it's opening in a new window. Please ignore me.

policywonk · 01/02/2009 14:22

Have no problem with the new look in general (in fact it looks almost exactly the same to me and am baffled by all the fuss!)

However, here's one glitch for the list:

when you're in a thread and you click through to someone's profile, there doesn't seem to be a way back to the thread, or even to active convos. The best I can do is go back to the Talk home page and go back to ACs from there. Which is a bit annoying. (The 'Back' button on the browser is greyed out when on profile pages.)

FiveGoMadInDorset · 01/02/2009 14:12

Have you gone home yet or are you camping out?

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YetMoreTech · 01/02/2009 14:07

Still working on it

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FiveGoMadInDorset · 01/02/2009 14:02

Still can't change options in customise.
Still have SN coming up in active convos even though it shouldn't on my settings.
Still can't see sny adverts in FFP, media, jobs adverts etc.

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