dear MN HQ could you please be so kind as to explain to me publicaly why you allow thread like the super race one

Please can I just say one thing; (and this is not the right thread to say it on) But: I HATE THE WORD DISABLIST and no, I do not know another word which would be better.

I have a child who has CP and my grandfather was also disabled, so if I am honest I have had a life time of people making nasty, disparaging and sarky remarks about my family. I hate it, its wrong, and I hope in my life time, that we will become a world, where every one regardless of race, creed, religion and abilty will be seen as equal.

think about it lol and you will get it.
It might give you a hint that I cannot be arsed to explain.

(Why did you think that particular comment was directed at you Ms? It was to the OP actually, But you obviously recognised yourself in the description..odd that)

Oh, why? Becasue god forbit anyone try to inject some humour or brevity into this sanctimonious madness?

I think the hysteria on this thread is offensive but I would never ask MN to shut you up. Why on earth would I?

These are words. And they are being challenged - by you.

I have no idea what it is you are so offended by. Is it the OP, who doesn't pretend to be an authority on anything? Is it the basic question that you think is taboo? In which case, you would close down most ethics boards.

No one is saying what you think they are saying; namly that disabled people do not deserve to live. All you are doing is whipping yourselves up into so much of a frenzy, it's impossible for you to see anything clearly.

as for me being personally offended what a pile of shit. I am not disabled so why would I be personally offended????

oh add a smiley and you are ok right!!!

They don't need to explain anything. You being personally offended does not constitute a crime. Not until that coup your are plotting happens anyway. Then I know I'll the one of the first against the wall, eh?

ok, serves me right for mis-reading the op.

I had assumed that she had also taken the title 'super race' from the Guardian article.

strange, still no answer and race thread still there!!

I've got a few primary sources from my slavery dissertation.

Excuses for being anti abolition mainly warble about intellectual inferiority, racial downgrading for 'caucasians', god given abilities

Yep same old shite

It is exactly what op wanted, and she used terms such as fitter, smarter, super race herself

the OP gave the label "super race" herself, nobody else presumed that or jumped to conclusions. Also, the comment "super race" was hardly a thrown in the mix phrase - it was used in the thread title. How more obvious can that be?

but Kitty - the title is "a new super race?" and then her OP says - she can?t see what the fuss is and that breeding out people so that we are left with fitter healthier options only can only be a good thing.
I think Peachy was not overstating or exagerrating the OP - if you read it through, she was clearly supporting the view of a super race as stated in her title.

Tbh peachy that is NOT what I understood the op to be saying at all.

I see that Onager but that wasn't the true jist of the contentious thread was it?

If you started an abortion thread I would say that much as I find termination desperately sad I recognise that in a very few cases the continuance would be more devastating than the abortion and that creates enough of a loophole tp continue the practice.

however the thread wanted a super race. Not to screen children in order to prevent pain or heartbreak, but to create a super race.

Which is the diffrence btween nazi practice and therapeutic euthanasia as practised in Holland, no?

kitty - I totally agree and support your view that we should not outright blanket ban certain topics for discussion. I also agree that it is wrong to silence people just because we do not agree with their viewpoint or it is a difficult subject. However, there is clearly a line to be drawn here - sometimes people do need to be silenced for their viewpoints and postings. It is all about judgement and where the line is drawn. While we all would wish for freedom of speech and openness, embracing all viewpoints as valid - in reality, this is not possible is it? In this case, this was an open view and opinion that many felt had crossed the line.

I think I missed half a sentence out there, but you get what I mean.

Well it's like the Pro-life/pro-choice thing. I'm not trying to make you do something. Just establishing that 'I' can.

Actually I am fine with that (sort of, for you anyway- in which I mean your choice to make whether I like it or not)

but if you expected ME to do the same in order to produce a super race then I have severe issues with you. If you suggest my childs genetics are to the detriment of humanity then I REALLY have severe issues with you!

Can you see the difference?

All people alive have equal value. I wouldn't have it any other way. But I'd abort a foetus that was going to be born disabled.

Can everyone here live with me holding that opinion? or does that make me disablist and therefore unfit to post?

there's a hell of a difference between discussing disability and its effect on parenting/families etc and advocating a super race .

No

discussions that imply our children are somewhat different in value to oher children is what we mean I think