Dear MNHQ, I didn't see all the problems kick off over poor Revjustabout...

Without having a go at anyone's credentials - a person can correctly call him/her self a minister/shaman/Big Kahunaburger of any religious belief he/she likes by means of buying a certificate off the internet. It doesn't actually matter.
And a person could come on here, be a properly qualified priest/priestess of any religion going, and give horrible, damaging 'advice' (just think how many branches of religion hate gay people, for instance). That person wouldn't be misrepresenting him/herself but would still be peddling bullshit.

ANd I never thought that the RW threads (which I have posted on and found interesting) were any kind of official MN Church Thing. FFS MN is not a Christian forum. Yes there are Christians on MN, there are also Pagans, Muslims, athiests and I would venture to suggest that there are Jews, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians and probably every other lot too. The RW threads I have viewed in the same light as the various ante-natal/post natal threads, the ongoing bereavement support group threads, the Fab& Glam threads, the scuttles, the flyladies and the wierd fruit&veg lot - a regular slot set up by MNers to hang out with their particular mates but open to all who are interested in the specific topic being discussed. WTF is wrong with that?

horrified enough to comment? horrified enough to say stop?

I sincerely hope so.

my last post to cf, btw.

kinda...
i was really addressing that to dittany, but kinda.

don't get me wrong i think that what they did was utterly crappy and they should apologise, but now i'm seeing the same names popping up i suspect that there is an element of anti-moldiness at work as well. and the vast majority of them have nothing to do with it and if i know them at all would be horrified.

Aitch,

don't think you could construct that case as it would imply that an amorphous group of people got together off board to plan it.

At least the anti-moldiers (whomever (if ever) they are) post publicly on this board.

yes you could aitch. but they are coming from a place of having been hurt so to my mind there is an albeit subtle difference.

the huge difference being that moldies can see everything on here and comment on it without anyone seeing it. which means that i hope that they stop doing it.

Well tortoiseshell, does your suicide example involve a fake priest? If not, then it's entirely irrelevant.

It's irrelevant in any case, because the Rev has been proven to NOT BE A FAKE PRIEST ffs.

IMO you're in a no win situation now Justine.
Rev is a rev and is therefore qualified to give spiritual advice if she should so wish... unless you are going to say she can't. in which case you'd have to also say no dr/lawyer etc can dispense any professional advice either.
It really can't be one rule for Rev and another for everyone else.
As it is she's the only poster having to adapt her name due to no fault of her own.
sorry if this is being argumentative btw

i'm sure one could construct a case about most things aitch if one felt so inclined..... but is that what you think?

I think it is wrong Justine, particularly in light of the treatment she has had recently. She has done nothing wrong. Important to check her credentials and be transparent about the whole business, but it does seem like you're putting the onus on her.

km

a name is just errrrrrrrrrrr a name

specially on t'internet

could one construct a case that there is also a select group of MNers conducting a vendetta against Moldies and that they are using the shitty behaviour of a few people who are both MNers and Moldies to grind their own axes?

well, i am now controlfreakythecontrolfreak

Justine, x-post.

But what you describe is precisely matching my gay bullied child analogy. 'hey, i wonder what's making them so cross. Do you think you could you just be a little less... you?

So no, it makes no sense to me.

And tbh, you are trumpeting the fact that this is a two-way thing, but I feel that if the Rev were truly happy, she'd have been right here backing you up, consistently and constantly.

I think you're kidding yourself. I'm a bit ashame.d

I've got to go to bed, I've not even STARTED getting through today's list of Things To Worry About

fuckit seems to have fuckedoff anyway

that's the fella, fuckit. night night.

yes thats a good example aitch
like the little devil on your shoulder saying "do it, do it"
kerrymum ive only repeated what others have said - dont get your knickers twisted about me repeating whats actually already been said by someone else

anyway, this seems to be going in circles now
im still none the wiser really
nighty night

Justine - I totally agree with that last post, that trusting for spiritual advice is sometimes more important than legal. Having witnessed someone commit suicide in front of my eyes (and ds1's), I know how utterly knife-edge someone can be, and how vital the right or wrong thing to be said can be. And if there were ever a fake 'Rev' (I know I know, not this one, but another) who wasn't looked into, then disasters could happen.

"LadyMuck I think trusting in someone for spiritual advice is probably (if anything) an even greater trust than trusting someone for legal advice"

BUT FGS JUSTINE, IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT SHE IS A REV!

After which point, it is utterly irrelevant what andy other trolls have done. And incumbent upon you, surely, to say to the Rev 'thanks for that, sure you understand, Judge Flounce and all". And to the rest of us, 'we are delighted to confrim that the rev is a rev. We will not hear of any furhter attacks on her, particularly any which involve her private life'.

suspicions - fine.
abuse - not.

ask to prove credentials - fine.
ask to change name even when everyone knows who she is to satisfy some here - maybe not.

Sophable - I don't think you make it hard for yourself. Instead you are consistently congruent.

If some can't take it in moldie-land more fool them.