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Dear MNHQ, I didn't see all the problems kick off over poor Revjustabout...

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georgimama · 20/01/2009 12:38

but I would be grateful if you could tell me that you have at least given serious consideration to banning the posters who were harrassing her.

Thank you.

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Nantucket · 21/01/2009 07:10

Justine 'deluded rather than malicious.'

Do you really think so?

I think both.

Yes I'm sure thier emails to you were put in reasonable concerned lanaguage, but thier public posts on MN most certainly were not .

As you well know.

They came on Mn only to attack Rev, for no other reason, their comments ranged from snidey to vicious, and I think can most certainly be descroibed as malicious. They most certainly were not polite, if testing, questions from concerned individuals who then contacted MNHQ.

Why are you trying to put a postive spin on this revolying behaviour?

Why have you decided to focus on what Rev to cuase such unplaesntnessrather than the unpleasntness itself?

I am sure the individuals concerened are perfectly decent women most of the time, but on this occasion thier actios were certainly not decent. I'm sure it wasn't a moldie arranged attack, just an attack arranged by a couple of moldies. Subtle difference.

I'm afraid Justine that I find your statements about these incidents such as 'deluded not malicious' to be very (wait for it).............disingenuous. Sorry, but I do. No other word (I can think of right now).

Bundle, MNHQ have explained themselves, I and others think thier reasoning is poor and thier decesion and focus very wrong, and I was under the inpression I was free to say so. As much as i liked.

They may well have the last word, but I can comment as much as I like on the last word. Stick around I'll get bored of repeating myself eventually.
Just not yet.

Firepile · 21/01/2009 01:15

Bundle - are you trying to have a fight? I was just surprised that you were addressing your comments to me as if I was the only person who was questioning MNHQ's decision. That's all.

dittany · 21/01/2009 01:12

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Firepile · 21/01/2009 01:11

I agree with you, Justine (and Dittany).

But isn't that one of the aspects of Modiegate that people were concerned about (ie people being discussed in secret with no right to reply)?

I suppose at least this sorry saga has given the Rev an opportunity to know the kinds of things that are being said about her in private (and to show them to be false). It goes without saying that others who are slagged off discussed on Moldies don't have that privilege.

(My first post on Moldies btw. Let's hope it's the last)

Gloriamumble · 21/01/2009 01:07

Ok, I think I understand mumsnet's position on this...

As long as no one accuses me of not being a penguin, I can post on whatever topics I like. If anyone shouts troll though and mumsnet hq verifies that I am a penguin then, although I can post on any topic I like with the name Gloriamumble, I can't start a topic about fish recipes lest I be deemed to be holding myself out as the "mumsnet resident expert penguin".

I can however post fish recipes under any other name (non penguin related) and I can also tell everyone that I am a flightless seabird in the content of those threads.

Sounds like a silly policy to me.

And, IMHO, the timing of rev's name change matters not a jot - if the reason it was suggested was as a result of her being unjustifiably hounded then that is pandering to bullies. It would still be wrong even if rev had waited to change name and no one else connected the two; the rev would know and the bullies would know.

bundle · 21/01/2009 01:05

(discussion, I mean. if that is the case)

bundle · 21/01/2009 01:04

justine it could just have easily have happened on FB, email, MSN

Quattrocento · 21/01/2009 01:04

That's a bit worrying.

bundle · 21/01/2009 01:03

"why I am the only objector to be singled out here"

JustineMumsnet · 21/01/2009 01:02

Well I suspect it had been discussed on Moldies, Firepile and they'd worked themselves in a frenzy of suspicion - doesn't mean they didn't genuinely believe in their suspicions though - ie deluded rather than malicious.

dittany · 21/01/2009 01:01

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MrJustAbout · 21/01/2009 01:01

Quattro - MrJustAbout here; I'll pass the message on.

Firepile · 21/01/2009 01:01

No persecution complex, Bundle - just curious as to why you asked me the direct question when I am not the only poster to be asking questions of MNHQ (though I may be the only one still up).

I am struggling to understand what is going on. It seems extraordinarily unfair. And my sense is thatI am not the only person who thinks that.

bundle · 21/01/2009 00:59

firepile the decision has been explained, if you don't like it, tough

as for being courteous, I seem to remember a number of her posts containing f**k, directed towards other posters

Quattrocento · 21/01/2009 00:59

Hope this hasn't damaged the mn experience for you Justabout - sorry about the unpleasantness

Firepile · 21/01/2009 00:56

So, lots of emails appear with MNHQ at about the same time as three posters launch a concerted (public) savaging on the Rev.

Is it just me that thinks that this smacks of a campaign against her?

I am still struggling to understand why she has inspired such a negative response, or even "concerns" - her postings have been consistently courteous and honest as far as I can see.

bundle · 21/01/2009 00:56

sorry for double post

justine doesn't have to explain the minute elements of MNHQ convos behind their decision making to you/me/anyone, surely? she is trying to be fair

bundle · 21/01/2009 00:54

firepile, do you have a persecution complex?

I was simply responding to your question

(justine are you watchign the bbc news channel- nice summary of obama to rhapsody in blue)

bundle · 21/01/2009 00:53

firepile, do you have a persecution complex?

I was simply responding to your question

(justine are you watchign the bbc news channel- nice summary of obama to rhapsody in blue)

JustineMumsnet · 21/01/2009 00:43

PrincessPeaHead is MN's chief royalty adviser
Enid has a working brief on Malory Towers plot lines.

Erm, no - never met em, never spoken to them. Might have deleted em once in a while.

Sorry you're so suspicious. I think this is to some extent a reflection of how much of a divide has grown between the two sides (moldies v mnet). No one who saw the Moldies posts for years honestly would think this badly of the Moldies as a group. Back me up on this other oldie non-moldie Mnetters please? They were a nice enough bunch.

Ok what happened on the Gaza thread wasn't nice but we had a few emails too and their concerns were genuine - I have it on v good authority - completely and utterly groundless of course, but genuine.

It would actually be nice if one or two of the ones who went public could manage a sorry to Revjustabout.

combustiblelemon · 21/01/2009 00:35

My, that's a lovely spoon you have there.

TheMNoldieWhisperer · 21/01/2009 00:34

They are considering it a jolly good win.

catinthehat1 · 21/01/2009 00:33

Well, it's a respectable (and respectful) question,so let's see what the answer is.

MrJustAbout · 21/01/2009 00:32

What, from TheReverentCustardo to The Archbishop of Custardo?

Firepile · 21/01/2009 00:31

Bundle, not sure why I am the only objector to be singled out here.

Justine has "explained" the decision.

Many posters have said that they think the rationale makes no sense, and asked that MNHQ reconsider. And I was posing a specific question about something that Justine asserted, with - as far as I can see - no evidence to back it up.

Or are we supposed to just say that's fine, MNHQ - back the bullies. Lots of us do not wish to be complicit in a process that penalises a wise and witty contributor at the behest of posters spreading poison and false allegations.

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