Dear MNHQ, I didn't see all the problems kick off over poor Revjustabout...

control to be fair i make things difficult for myself. a lot of the time.

not very diplomatic and can't keep my mouth shut when it would serve me better to if I see something that I think is shit.

also, i'm v strident and full on in the way i post but am also fairly thin-skinned and sensitive and always assume that people take me as intended which is often not the case.

THICK. THICK.... so thick i cant write thick....

can you explain it to me fuckit? am think and dont know what fuckitgoblin means ....

every wall is cracked, every ceiling has been flooded through. the whole place, bar the kitchen, is to be redecorated. it'll take about a month... i suppose every cloud has a silver lining but it is a pita.

well i'm sorry to hear it was made difficult for you.... you can be all those things on here soph and no one will mind / notice

really? that is so WIERD, is that a popular saying then? i've only ever heard it used on Moldies, where it received quite the round of applause for its linguistic innovation. a thousand apologies, fuckitgoblin, i totally assumed you'd have had to be there.

LM - at the time, JF's advice was seen as sound by many people, it was people like pph who were suspicious, and were shouted down, not least by JF. So on board, JF was well loved, off board there were suspicions with some posters.

Actually, I think that's bollocks, scummy, and I don't think MNHQ have asked Justa to stop the 'revving' threads, anymore than they want the prayer threads to stop, or the veg threads, or the scuttlers or the bar.

that aitch. she's much more dignified than me.

and that was undignified. but somehow cathartic.

no im definitely not a mouldie/moldie
I dont know why you are ing at me aitch
what happened to you that was so awful that your leaving wasnt a 'revoking' of membership on your part?

I NEVER LEFT, I JUST HAD A BAAAAABY!

i didn't leave because i was hounded off just to clarify (although i did feel extremely hounded for most of the time that i was there as I was critical and kept inconveniently and apparently aggressively bringing up the fact that the voting system might be hurtful that mn would eventually find out about moldies and that it would be awful and that people were going to get hurt. i was very unpopular both for saying that and for the 'aggressive' way that i said it.

i left because I felt uneasy about my profession being used against me linked with a poster that I didn't wish to engage with persistantly and insistantly trying to. in an unpleasant way.

that was the straw. but my (critical) views and aggressive tone were most unpopular there. with most of them. who just wanted to be left in peace to get on with their site.

I think that's a fair assessment of it. I could be a lot more unfair but i know that moldies may have a totally different view of it (that heartless horrible, nasty, aggressive, unempathic sophable etc).

But JF was a fraud in that she was giving wrong legal advice under effectively someone else's name. Even if rev was not a rev (and I understand that you seemed to be confused on that point even after speaking with her), isn't it also moot as to consider whether she is doing anything wrong.

The only accusation against Rev seems to have been that she was not what she said she was, despite having posted on her journey to being ordained for some time. For a fair comparison to JF she would have had to be doing something harmful in terms of giving advice. The only thing that she seems to have done wrong is to become popular.

B&J - wasn't on that thread, didn't read all the posts. Only responding to my own thoughts really.

it was not her own personal thread though.

well there's a suprise.... . well welcome back to the fold aitch (and you soph).... (and dont say you never left because you know what i mean)

interesting, scummy.

lol, cf. it would be a bit undignified, i think.

suffice it to say that i still think that they aren't doing anything wrong (with the exception of these MN ram-raids which are KEECH) and i still very much like the vast majority of them. the ones i don't like on there i never did care for much on here anyway so it's no biggie. small board, big personalities, that sort of thing.

I'm becoming a boring, middle of the road, avid MNHQ supporter in my old age. To think I used to be a bolshie rebel in my youth.

I think picking on revs is a very nasty and bad idea and anyone who has done this should hang their head in shame. However, I also don't really like "hey hey we're the revrevs come and see us revving around" threads because I don't like mumsnet being about overt spiritual guidance personally. While I accept that the rev was fairly wishy washy liberal in terms of promoting dialogue and not doling out too many hail marys, I think having her own personal thread needing workplace supervision was open to misinterpretation. My personal ideal is a secular website with believers, non-believers, revs, rabbis, gurus, pastors, imams and humanist mothers of all shades welcome to engage in fierce debate but not plying their trade, as it were. So I think MNHQ are spot on in asking rev to lay off the revving and, even more importantly, everyone else to lay off the meanness.

they're all lovely posters in normal circumstances. it was horrible though.

Have asked for my posts to be deleted.

Tortoise

"and MNHQ say that if you have concerns about a poster to let them know"

not call them "fucking fake fake fake" then?

she is decent, but doesn't trouble herself or get angsty and is always taking the piss out of me for being too angsty about things.