is there a moldies part three?

chipmonkey! Glad to see you

I am setting up my behavioral optometry practice in 2 weeks Am going in with a friend and will be there 2 days a week.

Zzzzzz

You know something? I have only been on Mumsnet for a year. A dear friend, but someone I have only met once in RL because of distance, asked me to come on so we could talk without it costing a fortune. I can imagine how hurtful it must be to not be included in this group - especially if you were 'mumsnet friends' before.

BUT - life is very, very short. We should be proud of ourselves for being good mums, we should cherish every day as if it is our last. We should not worry about what other people are doing or saying.

I dont fit any of the newspapers ideas of Mumsnet. I am from the North and very, very working class. Proud of my heritage and the fact that I am from a coal mining background. I have nowt - but what we have we share.

Please dont worry and fret about stuff on here. There are much more things to fill your day. Like I said I can understand how annoying it must be BUT there is so much more to life.

MSTG, I've heard of you!
BIWI, I think MNHQ probably would regard putting all comments on one thread as "damage limitation" and I can't say I blame them for trying particularly after all the bad press. But I for one, will continues to post until I am absolutely sure I have no more to say on the subject!

Passes BIWI a valium...(and has a sneaky one herself)

CM - I dont even really "click" with anyone, just enjoy some posts more than others. There is nobody on here that is really a friend (sob sob ) and I suspect that very few people have even heard of me, as I am not on here day and night. There are also times when the pitch fork waving does my head in and so I go away for a bit.

I miss some of the regulars and wouldnt be angry if they came back at all....MN doesnt "belong" to anyone of us posters does it? Its not like its "our" house. But I think those that were rejected are quite within their rights to tell a moldie to fahrk owf!

Sorry, but I actually find myself feeling pretty strongly about this. And I don't want to upset MNHQ, because I can imagine that this whole thing has been pretty upsetting for them as well.

But I do bitterly resent being told that we can't talk about it on here - even being 'herded' onto one thread feels offensive. The fact that is has been likened to threads about Baby P and Madeleine McCann, in itself, is pretty offensive.

I would like to know why we are being actively encouraged not to continue these posts. I can understand that many MNetters may not like them - but when has that ever stopped people from posting?

I just wrote a huge long post and then deleted it!!!>>
MoreSpamThanGlam, I know where you are coming from. I did and do have favourites on MN, after all, we are human and we will "click" with some people more than others. (And FWIW ScottishMummy, you are one of my favourites!)
I did like and do still like Twiglett. And I don't think she would intentionally have set up a group to deliberately split MN down the middle.
I think there was nothing wrong in principle with having a Mumsnet Oldies group. But Moldies is not an "oldies" group, it is a "Mumsnet finest" group. So you get MNers being invited who are not oldies but who are seen to be worthy contributors. And you get people who have been on MN for years, and posted prolifically so surely should be considered to be oldies but somehow don't make the grade. And for those people the whole revelation about Moldies was hurtful.

This is an internet forum which is IMO as worthy a place to make friends as any. BUT, the same rules apply here as apply in secondary school. It is a mistake to assume that people who are friendly are actual friends.

I wonder if there is a moldies check list?

Do you shop at Iceland?
Do you wear Boden?
Do you go on Mark Warner hols?
Do you have a Nanny/Au Pair?
Do you own any item of clothing that is 100% nylon?
Have you ever given your child frootshoots/greggs sausage rolls?
Do you call your vag a fango?
Do you know who the bat is?

Sorry - tis v childish and I am giggling to myself.

I still don't see why that should stop the rest of us discussing it though - if we want to.

Yes I wondered that BIWI and I came up with the following

1. Because they thought it wasn't good for the site to get caught up in rancour
2. Because they feel quite a lot of affection for the oldies who have been with them since the dawn of time - and the threads were pretty anti-oldie overall
3. Because they felt responsible for the whole thing getting blown up - not that they should have done at all - the secret was already out but in a low-key way

But its ok for old posters to hurt other posters?

A group of MNetters decided that it was time to make their own place away from MN. They didn't like the way that MN had grown/developed, and wanted their own, 'private' place to talk with each other. Once there, they decided that they wanted to invite other, 'like minded' MNetters to join them. Except that this invitation process was one where people had to nominate future members, and current members had the right to approve/veto them. Oh, and it was also kept a secret from the rest of MN.

Moldie - MN Oldie... sort of.

Maybe because a lot of the stuff posted on these threads is against the general MN policy.

Or put simply, as Carrie posted hours ago:

"Anyway, as we say we're not in the business of censorship, but neither do we want to see any posters, old or new, dissed, hurt or upset."

Sorry if i'nm being ignorant (i dont post that often) but can someone please tell me what a moldie is?!!

I don't get that either BecauseImWorthIT...

I know that there have been thousands of posts about this. It's clearly been something very emotional for many of us - rightly or wrongly.

But what I don't quite understand is why MNHQ want this to stop.

I don't want to be controversial or difficult, but if people here want to keep posting about this issue, then why shouldn't they?

What is it that keeps MN insinuating that this is not an area that they feel comfortable with?

Why should we not keep posting about it, on as many threads as we like?

Your comment sounded holier than thou to me.

Might have read it wrong.

I dont have cyber friends I have opinions on particular posters. I am not friends with one MNer. Apart from Pickled Parsnips and she is my best friend in RL.

what's with the "so there"?your prerogative to have cyber frends after all.

Well I do, so there.

There are some Mners that I enjoy reading and think they are interesting/funny/give great advice. And some just bore me silly or irritate me.

Not as in "she is my fav, so I wont talk to you" :rolls eyes:

thing is i have no favourites.i enjoy posts but know none of you,it really is words on a screen anonymous interaction

Probably, but if Twig did set it up, then she must have had something to do with the selection process no? Thats a real shame, I never thought of Twig like that, she was a fav of mine. Not that we ever really spoke but she made me laugh.

ah there is the rub,closed forum good if you are invited and hoi polloi excluded but if you are left ticket less as many were well feelings run high

closed forum,if it floats your boat,ok.but the price is less open forum spontaneity,adherence to rules,fitting in,dock yer moldie cap

who wants to be a selected few?when you can throng with the many

MoreSpamThanGlam, I really don't know whose idea it was but FWIW, I still like Twiglett! I don't think she would deliberately set something up to hurt other people. I think ( if it was her) that she had a good idea but that it was possibly less well thought out and less organised than it should have been. I think a closed forum in some cases is a good idea; what caused so much of a furore was the way in which a lot of good people felt excluded and hurt.