If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies [part 2]

I freely admit I am up my own arse connie. I have said from day one that we need to accept that not everyone likes us. I am very aware that there are mumsetters that don't like me or think that my face doesn;t fit. I wish they woudld be more honest and admit this is about some people liking some people more than others rather than pretend it is about older children.

I have come to the conclusion that the people worst effected by this are some of the moldies. Lots of people are on here because they are shy or have confidence issues. I can see that for some people it would have been very flattering to be asked by mumsnet royalty to join their own private members club. It must now be very hurtful to those people to become an outsider on that websit.e that for years, months or even weeks has provided online friendship and support.

Look - there's just one thread to allow those who feel the need to keep posting. If you don't like it or don't want to see it, just hide it. But please accept that for some people there is a need to get this out of their systems.

A bit of empathy wouldn't go amiss sometimes, as well as Christian charity.

jeepers creepers what hope for the Israeli/Palestine problems?

I agree Quattro and Rev, I dont want to see people leave but can understand why they are. I hope though they may filter back.

freckle

Can I just (belatedly) applaud the Rev for this post:

"I think we who are Mumsnetters need to be very careful that we don't destroy the spirit of generosity we are rightly famous for, by continuing to demonise the "others," who have themselves in a funny way turned into the outsiders. We need to show the Moldies the same spirit of generosity that we were shown when we came to Mumsnet"

I think that shows a christian spirit of generosity, yes and forgiveness too.

Personally I don't want to see anyone who has a positive contribution to make to MN leaving or deregging.

To be fair to freckle I can understand why she has deregistered, (although I wish she did not have to) while most people are now able to talk about mouldies without resorting to bitchyness and unpleasantness the moudlies have become a thing of ridicule and something to poke fun at. Quite ironic as they started as some kind of uber mumsnetter. I would not want to be still be posting at the moment if I were a modlie it would be a little too uncomfortable.

that's a bit odd though Freckle. As far as I can see, there were/are many sensible and honest posts, from both sides, and also a few nasty bitter ones again from both sides.

Saying that the nastiness caused by the revelation that another group existed is a valid and compelling reason to deregister is kind of, well,

hang on a minute.

I'm confused now.

You joined another group
most people didn't know about it
It got uncloaked
Lots of people got really upset, a few were nasty about it (from both sides)
MN got some press coverage
MN is no longer a nice place to be, so you are leaving on a wave of embarrassment that you are part of the site.

sorry, I don't think that truly follows.

Hide the thread then, by posting on it all you are doing is ensuring it is on your threads I am on list making it more likely you will post on it.

That is why I keep coming back

Just hide the thread, MrsMattie!

This is just relentlessly pathetic, now. It's the biggest load of navel gazing guff ever seen on MN. For crying out loud, stop it. PLEASE.

Loads of folk touch your lives in their own way.

I can't be alone in thinking that my life is much richer for knowing something about all of you?

I am sorry that you feel upset and feel that you have to leave.

The thing is we cannot see your special site so we have to rely on what people say. Who are people like me to believe, those that clearly want to exclude me from their group or those that I chat to on n equal basis every day.

What is still making me are the lines appearing in articles and on the web stating that "moldies set up a new site to discuss the issues surrounding older children"

JESUS CHRIST!! Get your facts straight!!!

(Note: I am not a moldie, but from what I can work out, that was NOT the reason for the site being set up, and it makes Mumsnet looks like a discuss page for only nappies, sore boobs and baby poop.)

So Freckle, do you not understand how those of us not invited to join Moldies might be feeling?

I have not 'spewed' any bile. I have expressed my hurt, like many others. Why is this so difficult to understand and/or accept?

I'm sorry that you feel that you have to deregister, by the way.

Was there a popularity contest then?

Did I miss it?

I am truly shocked by some of the things posted on this and other threads about these supposed vicious, selfish, bitchy, egotistical cows and how their totally secret, yet very well publicised, forum actually works.

A number of people have posted about things that they know, yet, not being members of Moldies, can only be speculating based on their own personal perspectives or imaginations.

I am a member of Moldies and I suspect that my experience there is different from that of most of the other members, because we all joined at different times and the forum has evolved as people have settled in. Each person's experience will be coloured by the way things were at that time and subsequently. So MP's experience of how people are invited to join was valid for her because that is how it worked then, but my experience is very different because it has changed and is constantly changing as people put forward their views. It is like an organic thing which changes and grows. So all of you who have scoured the threads to pick up "lies" and "untruths" because one member's explanation of something differs from another member's have been deluded into thinking that one of them must have lied. But they haven't. They are explaining their own experience.

And I don't understand why so many of you seem to have decided to be completely incandescent about this particular forum when there are undoubtedly loads of others out there about which you know absolutely nothing. You talk about fear of Moldies "recruiting" from MN almost as if it is Al Qaeda and that people who accept will forevermore be turned to the Dark Side. It would be truly laughable if it weren't so sad.

What makes this worse is that MNHQ have absolutely no problem with the existence of Moldies and have communicated at great length with them about how they understand the need for such a forum. If they had also chosen to share these feelings on MN at the outset of all this angst and bitterness, things might not be at this stage, where MN is being mocked internationally and many respected MNers have deregistered because of the bile which has been spewed here.

And I am another one who is deregistering, so if I don't return to respond to whatever bricks you want to throw in my direction, it won't be because I am too scared (an insult which has been hurled at other Moldies), it will be because I have chosen to take no further part here. Some may say that that is no bad thing and good riddance as I also post on Moldies. However, I would point out that you will find no post on here since I first registered many years ago where I have been rude, inflammatory or unfeeling. I have always dealt with everyone with respect and goodwill, offering advice where I can (and which many have indicated they have found helpful). How many others like me have been turned off this site because of the nature of these threads?

So please think carefully before this thread is filled to capacity with more bitterness and yet another thread is started to enable the nastiness to continue.

Hello Winehouse

Ooh! Hello Paperchase - thank you for answering.

Excellent Wiki entry.

Hello Winehouse.

Putting my toe in the water here after all the newspaper coverage. Hello!

Hilarious! I love it.