If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies, please do it here so folks can hide this if they want to.

My children keep WAKING UP

I think they've been on some sort of bloody Santa Night-Watch duty for the last week

argh

Bloddy hell onebat is all your food OK? Forget the kids do you have christmas dinner?

Oh no onebat - how? why? how did you get in?

person 3 wallows and gloats in it

I think Survivors has made me hysterical

I'm going to make a serious comment now.

The bit I don't understand is why people don't get others' anger (ie the need to go on the attack). And on both 'sides' (though I hate that phrase)

People who feel betrayed (and they do, whether individuals understand that or not) need to be allowed to kick off and vent and be rude for a bit. Once they have done this, they will calm down. But they need their anger acknowledging otherwise they will just continue to feel belittled.

This is the only way reconciliation will happen.

And over in the Moldies, they too need to be allowed their feelings, even if they do seem to some people to be 'at fault'. Many if not most made a natural, and rational decision to join a group that made sense to them. It was misguided from the perspective of 'over here'. Perhaps. But not to them. Doesn't make it right or good. But it is probably what happened: sins of omission rather than comission.

So to Moldies, to come back here and be utterly personally rejected or criticised, what else is there for them to do but be either thoughtful and conciliatory (as Aitch, onebat, swedes and others who have been and returned etc have been) or be defensive.

Point is some moldies are on the offensive because there is no face-saving alternative while people are so angry. It is basic human interaction rules to minimize shame by making out you made a sane decision; you wouldn't naturally or automatically say, yes I was wrong without a fight.

We got distracted by some lovemaking

GUFFAW

Person 1:
Person 2: Fucking Hell! You just behaved really badly!
Person 1: stop shouting at me! You're making me really upset!

lolol

that sounds like my whole marriage TBH

I haven't got the safe tealights yet, will get some when I get paid.

My sister is now paying more rent, I really do wish someone would buy my house.

Gosh I leave tealights lit all over my house. The most stupid thing I did was playcards by tealight in a tent. We got distracted by some lovemaking and then fell asleep then woke up to see a small fire in our tent. if we had woke a few seconds later we would have been killed. I insisted that dp put out the fire in silence as I was so embaressed at how idiotic it was. No one noticed but to this day we have a hole in our groundsheet and a hole in our table.

oh and rev I was sorry to hear your revelation on ana earlier thread. I wa trying to stay away from the subject hence not posting but

PS think you've been great on these threads.

sorry just got ALL EXCITED after watching Survivors

mp - there have been times with some of my clients that I felt like it, and that was just in the secondary schoo; I was at before prison!!!

I said I was aware I may be coming across as patronising, I'm sorry if that was the case, with only words at my disposal and after a botle few drinks it's often difficult to get the inflection right.

I was actually expressing concern for expatinscotland. Whilst thinking, in the words of chequersandroastedchestnuts who's post is above my message window as I type that she may feel she has "enough crap to deal with right now"

MP dont be daft everyone knows she strangles them with her hula hoop. The cute kid is just a cover.

twinset, man, i hope your sister isn't still taking advantage of you!

ffs!

i'd buy that place off you just to spare you the trouble.

did you get the 'safe' tealights?

i thought they were naff, then i saw this episode of 'Inferno 999' and these people had lost their whole house because of an unattending tealight in the bathroom.

man, that makes you stop and think, eh?

rev - did advice and guidance, not teaching there. Was a secondary school teacher for over 9 years previously, taught ICT. Now about t strart being a TA in a Y1 class. I like change, lol

lol hula in prison!

Hula killed a man with her bare hands

lol rev - yes, I was doing some advice and guidance work IN a prison. I wasn't actually IN prison myself. The thought of no internet fr that length of tie Enough to keep me from crime that's for sure!

Hula is actually a big name in the criminal underworld you know,hence the long prison visits.