If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies, please do it here so folks can hide this if they want to.

Nononononono. TVs. No apostrophe. Absolutely not. Whatever next? Greengrocer's. That's what. It's a slippery slope. TV's indeed.

Expat we have a tennis court at the bottom of our road which seems to be made of carpet. The lines are sort of impressed into it, so it dips, and the ball bounces all funny. It's the worst example of a tennis court ever. And I don't even play tennis.

Groan - can you post your location please - if you really do read all of this somebody will need to go round to your house and feed your kids, polish your loo seat and fluff your pillows. You won't be doing any of that for a good 72 hours

Groan, there are at least 5 1000+ threads on this in chat as well. So erm a good 7000 posts to keep you occupied for the day.

Fortunately all the threads that didn't make it to 1000 (of which there were many) have been deleted.

"I missed the She Who Must Not Be Named crisis too as not looked at mumsnet in a long time."

As in over 2 years !!

Just don'tcome asking for sausages - they all got eaten last night.

I woke up this morning feeling hungover - which would be fine had I drunk - but I don't drink. It couldn't possibly be late night mumsnetting and two (ok three) slices of brandy laced Christmas cake could it? How much of a lightweight am I?

Fab - thanks for that QC. I missed the She Who Must Not Be Named crisis too as not looked at mumsnet in a long time. Can feel myself being pulled back in though .

Ok, kids on wii for the day, I have a day off work, sod the housework, have put coffee pot on and choccie biccies to hand. Will now plough through this thread for all events, opinions and nuances of latest crisis.

I have now invented a fold-out tennis court. Will post to expat in due course.

i wonder how long it will be before it all kicks off again now

On your head be it, quattro

I joined in the middle of the GF debaucle, and Narniagate missed me completely, so I know how you feel!

Quick summary

Some people who have been around MN since the dawn of time felt that the site no longer served their needs.

There was a replica site set up at the time of the She Who Must Not Be Named crisis, so they migrated over to that.

This meant they could leave the cloak of anonymity behind because they were with a small group of people who were all known to them. A troll-free environment. Around 120-150 people went across to this site. Most of them still post on MN.

It upset lots of people for various different reasons:

(a) Because there was a voting system as to who should be allowed in and who not, which absolutely infuriated those who knew they had been blackballed. People felt they had been judged and found wanting
(b) Because of the secrecy involved - people thought it was duplicitous and/or disingenuous
(c) Because it was a bit mean-spirited and not very inclusive

Some people are quite glad that the MNOldies are not around any more because they resented being told what to do on MN.

There - sorry if I have not included any relevant points of view.

Count yourself lucky groan. It waas quite amusing but disproportionately time consuming.

I'd advise staying away for another week and then coming back when little evidence to tempt you wil remain.

If you are toocurious for that there are links to the original therad on here....but you have been warned. IF you'd like to speak to your family over the next 2 days DON'T DO IT!!!!!!

I can imagine Twelvedaisy . Should have 'serious' emoticon there really but none available!

Have obviously missed a major milestone in the history of mumsnet; a schism of great magnitude.

Doh!

groan, any time there is a summary, it all kicks off again!

Back to this serious issue of apostrophising plural proper nouns ending in vowels ...

I think there are situations nowadays where you can use apostrophes for plurals - but I don't think the form of the noun matters, nor does it matter whether or not it ends in a vowel. I think the issue is when the noun is abbreviated to its initials.

Take "television" and "digital video disk"

Two televisions
Two digital video disks

No-one would have an urge to stick an apostrophe in there. But once you use the abbreviated forms - TV and DVD - the issue is much murkier.

2 TVs or 2 TV's?
2 DVDs or 2 DVD's?

It is fairly common usage to stick apostrophes into the abbreviated form of plural nouns.

It's quite hard to find a proper noun that both (a) gets referred to by its initials and (b) is commonly used in the plural form, but I think there are car types for instance
TVR. If you try it with that it seems that the form of the noun doesn't matter.

Dear God I am even boring myself with this, but I was sure there was a point in OBM throwing the TV at me last night.

Ooer I am an oldie who has namechanged for a fresh start (well changed my name to ask a question and quite like new name).

Why were threads deleted? Can't possibly read 2k+ posts!

Can someone kindly summarise or provide link to a summary?

hmmm

Has this kicked off yet?

MorningPaper:

are you still looking for this?

being in another timezone, I missed all the norty threads that were deleted the previous 2 nights.

gur-rump!

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