If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies, please do it here so folks can hide this if they want to.

Help me with something here - Waynetta (WWW) are you connected to Wicked Water Witch (WWW)?

yes dear, i have no balls! you are not PPH - i am mistaken.

no you arent being naive bbbeee

can never get the right number of letters

Custardo if you are accusing me of something then at least have the balls to say it.

am I?

do they hate me?

do they think I am a bitch?

I post on here intermittently ...quite a bit some days and then not at all for a couple of weeks ... and was dismayed to read about the Moldie fracas yesterday on my return.

I think Justine and Co have been amazingly tolerant and gracious in the circumstances. I help to run a tiny business (200th of the size of Mumsnet) and I understand what goes in to keeping it going: nothing short of blood, sweat and tears. Although the Mouldies are perfectly entitled to copy the entire format and post privately, I think it's really "off" to do so.

Also, I think the elephant in the room here is "class". I know this is a contentious thought and everyone may not agree, but whenever the complaint went up about Mumsnet being larger nowadays and open to all and posters not being as "witty and articulate", I always smelt a nasty whiff of class superiority in the air. Perhaps I'm wrong - I'm not saying all Moldies are guilty of that - but it's just my impression.

I agree with everything CliffRichard says about now making this site as supportive and helpful to Newbies as possible.

i think you are naive BBBEE

nah

it is more of a 'safe haven' IMO - i think it is to do with people other people 'know' and have expereince of - rather than 'oh no not her she is such a bitch' it is not judgemental - more wanting to be safe and know who is there and who is not.

maybe i am horribly naive.

Perhaps you could explain then?

oh dear

i am so sorry people are sad.

can i just say that those that are nominated and then vetoed on moldies are not deemed 'not good enoguh' it is not as dracionian as that.

clearly

Am I missing something Custy?

I met you at the Xmas meet, Piffle, and you were lovely. As were Pillock, Custy, BIWI, Flame, Psycho, Norky, Buda, Lapin, Sheik, Mamazon, Marsy and pretty much everyone else I chatted to (I did have a lot of gin that night, though...).

It bothers me not that there is a separate forum (although I'm sorry that certain posters are no longer around on MN so much) but it bothers me to see nice people I have met in RL upset over it. It also bothers me that certain posters appear to be seeking to deny those who are offended and upset their right to those feelings. This is only fanning the flames of anger and hurt and I wish it would stop.

hi to bbbee and everyone else

agree with ggg.

realises new name gettinga nnoying already but stands steadfast. Maybe until tomorrow?

Is it worth being clarissimo formerly Peachy as a name for a swapover period I woner?

Hmm.....

i agree alors.

Thank you catinthehat1.

The thread title was 'vicious namecalling'

Riven - I have also namechanged (I was ggglimpopo, I explained on a now deleted thread why and when I had changed) - I think open namechanging is fine, namechanging to bully, mock or hurt is a load of crap and is cowardly and deserves to be outed.

Hiding behind a name to hurt is as bad or worse than trolling, especially if you actually 'know' those you are scorning. At least trolls are strangers.

I would rather be trolled by a bored pimply fifteen year old, than be jibed at by a 35 year old woman with an axe to grind. Personally.

nice name waynetta (PPH?) not inflamatory in the slightest.

why would you get banned for name changing

unless you were being malicious

Good post Rhubs..

Riven I managed it didnt I?

Must be possible

I like Rhubarb's post too. I started off being quite gentle over the whole moldie saga, but allowed myself to make a couple of posts that were much harsher than my normal MN tone -- because of the hurt involved in thinking (rightly or wrongly) of myself as having been judged and found wanting by people who wrongly called themselves my superiors.

I really don't feel at all comfortable with all this harshness mine and other people's and I hope very much that this whole business can just die off the MN boards. It will, if people stop being so hurtful to one another.